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 You got to love ol' FatBoy Vapor...NOT !!!! This fat ass, big mac eating motherfucker didn't even test the pump, rather tried to use simple addition/subtraction to extrapolate flowrates... You have got to be kidding me. The company I work for builds Interstate Highways and what you do on paper NEVER fucking works in the field 100% of the time, it's more like shit is done in the field to fix what was done on paper...  hey Vapor.... TELL ME HOW MY ASS TASTES... 
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lol.... the way he describes it makes him sound like an ass, but technically he is close to right, just the fucked up way he describes it makes me think the info is second hand, and he doesnt really understand it.
pressure drop is exponentially proportional to flow rate So if you split the restriction across two loops your gona end up with a higher flow rate overall than trying to shove it all through one high flow loop nothing to do with harmonics tho... this is an example of a harmonics problem "if vapour turns his ass vibrator to speed 7 and hums the note C.... will fuggers head explode?"
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I'd fucking pay to see a video of that harmonic test...
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Small Victory on terminology use.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=100 If someone can cut-n-paste the contents here, please do.
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Absolutely and no doubt there might be better total flow rate, but it's the way they measure it. Split the restriction in half and measure it twice, then present it next to something that has twice the restriction and measured once. And it's pretty clear Vapor doesn't have a clue and just double talking with all that harmonic crap  andyc
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wow. i just died a lil bit more inside. fugger your a dumb fat fuck.
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 Yet the reviewer goes on and on about it like it's innovative and the best way to design a res fill system.How am I supposed to top it off which has to be done from time to time without flipping my case over and creating a mess. How is that "ease of use". I don't know, maybe it will all make more sense when the unit arrives Tuesday andyc
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now here's what i was waiting for
greetings RReal people good morning motherfuckers...now who else other than our newest retiree is getting this shit... andy - you lucky retiree or was it retirer? lol sir we'd love to see your testing very much. i was so close in buying this shit just to get me some RReal numbers...jab-tech had 4 in stock last night guys bring out your flow meters we bought them for a reason Quote:
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I was just kidding around? Using the fact that opening up two browser windows to a bank account and thinking you had twice the money, would be exactly like splitting a loop in half, measuring twice and thinking you had twice the flow rate Pretty silly really  , but we'll see soon enough once my T3 gets here Tuesday.andyc
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The testing is so flawed, the more I read that review the more shady it gets  First he only tests a real single loop config against the FuFuFuFuFuFuFuFu top and the stock top, he doesn't test with the EK or The Detroit until further down and then when he compares them he is comparing the Detroit, EK and other tops running every component in the loop against the Primochill only running half the components. I.E. Top port in and Top port out of course it's going to have higher flow rate because it only has half as many blocks and rads in the loop as the competitiors tops. Then they keep fighting the idea of testing with a Y on the outlet of the other pump tops going back into a multiport res. In otherwords only 1 Y feeding off the pump then the two loops each getting hooked to seperate inlets on the res. So now they are going to retest with the Y but no it's not with the 1 Y, they are going to retest by feeding both loops back into a Y before going back into the res LOL I mean I must have said a dozen times they should test with a multiport res to remove the restriction from feeding two loops back through 1 Y and they just pretend like they don't understand and continue to say they are going to test with the Y's on the inlet and the outlet of the loops. So I fully expect the next revelation to be that the other pump tops don't perform nearly as well using Y's either, due to another unfair comparison. I didn't think it was a shill at first and I always thought skinnee was a good guy but it's getting damn near impossible to see any of this testing as unbiased. I also asked him early on if he would include temps in the review and he said no he didn't have time? How long does it take to jot down some numbers for temps while your doing all this testing? So once the review comes out I ask him if he noticed any difference in temps and of course he says he didn't look at the temps. I mean come on you test all these different configs and you don't even look at the temps? I find it hard to believe. More likely he just doesn't want to admit there was no difference in temps. It just seems like they try so hard to never say anything bad about this thing that somethings gotta be up with all this... Last edited by bluehaze; 07-24-2009 at 12:02 PM. |
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 Also, if you want to drain your system, you have to use a barb with a length of tubing attached to it unless you want to dribble a bunch of coolant down the front of your PC. If you don't remove the second plug, you end up vapor locked, and if you do remove the second plug, you have to tilt your case forward and sideways at some fucked up angle to get it to drain without spilling. I still think this thing is innovative, albeit a bit misrepresented, but the fill/drain thing is just not my cup of tea. |
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The Way of the PrimoShill - MythBusted Bitches !!!!!
Just to preheat those who are reading this post:
I don't know if it's just me, but I truly enjoy watching the "nerds" post shills and double-speak on the internet and watching the ignorant members of some forums buy and drink the Ignorant flavored KoolAid by the gallon... I never really have had anything against Geno (aka. BoxGods) he seemed like a cool guy, in the PM's and emails I've exchanged with him. But I have always had a problem with deceitful people, I don't operate that way and enjoy exposing those who choose to live a life of deceit...  Sorry Geno (aka. BoxGods), This Thing Of Ours foundation is built on truth and loyalty. Truth about products/vendors/manufacturers and truth to the crew. Loyalty to the crew and the foundation principles This Thing Of Ours is built on. What I do is I choose to tell the truth about shady ass motherfuckers and shady ass products. But that is what I choose to do alone, I do not have any expectations for others to do the same. If others follow it will be by their making the choice to follow. These are my beliefs.. So without further ado, here is what I've noticed in some of BoxGod's posting regarding the PrimoShill T3 Barbie Doll Pump Top... 1st post for Review  Quote:
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2nd Post for Review  The first two replies aren't worth my time, complete and utter bullshit... The last reply is just FUCKING ABSURD... 3rd Post for Review  Quote:
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The forums are too hard for me... Yeah, I guess reading, since that what you do on forums, is too much for the Grand Wizard of Barbie Doll Pump Tops... Quote:
Bullshit Version: The admins at XS are stand-up guys. They only allow "truthful" and "unbiased" reviews and test results to be posted on their upstanding forum. They preformed a mass cleaning last year of the members who questioned the "unbiased and truthful" reviews that were posted. Those members they cleaned out were all "bad apples" who argued with the "high post count" members who obviously are more knowledgeable due to their "high post counts". Now XS is a more "constructive" forum due to the lack of dissent. It is a forum full of "yes sir" kind of members, the type of members all SHADY ASS vendors just cum  in their pants for. The kind of members that will never openly question a new product or idea, but rather yell from the mountain tops how great it is and sell their organs to buy multitudes of. That way are vendors who post at XS can become filthy rich selling 100% SHIT products while the "Not so Secret Forum in XS's WCG Forum" continue to fence their stolen INTEL ES CPU's to those same "yes sir" members.So what are you SHADY ASS vendors waiting for, PrimoShill and FuFuFuFuFuFuFuFu, hurry up and develop/manufacture a new level of 100% PURE SHIT products. XS has been specially made just for you... THE TRUTH: XS is corrupt from top to bottom. It starts at the top... XS is full of non-experienced members, therefore they have no clue as to what to question. I'm sure it is nirvana to shaddy ass companies, that pedal 100% PURE SHIT. What's funny is, the manufacturers/vendors that are up & up (except EK - why Eddy why) don't really visit the shit forum known as XS. They must realize the TRUTH about XS, like those of us here do.XS also removed those of us who chose not to be "yes sir" members. They banned those of us who chose to not follow the "high pot count" members. They banned those of us who formed our own fucking opinions. They banned those of us who openly posted about the SHADY ASS vendors. They banned US and created This Thing Of Ours...  Quote:
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Read Boxgod's latest post and this is really starting to stink. skinnee said he was testing with the Y's yesterday then he talks with Boxgods and now the latest reply from Boxgods states:
"When the other tops were reviewed they were not tested with Y's and parallel loops because that wasn't done till T3. We had a conversation about it and I said man don't take the abuse just do the Y tests because the T3 will STILL out perform AND be easier to use. He got back to me last night and said he did not feel like that was fair to the T3 and that he would just wait a few weeks and take the heat" Translation: he tested with the Y and other pump tops performed the same as or better than the T3 therefore he can't post the results as it will invalidate this whole next best thing since sliced bread theory that has been propogated. It's one thing when people go into a review with their head down and barrell through, I believe skinnee really did think this was some new revolutionary project initially but he has to realize by now what it really is and if he continues to propogate this as some new revolutionary must have for every water cooler after realizing that well then let's just say i've lost all respect for the guy. |
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I'm a bit confused. So did skinee do the test with one flow meter (and running twice to add up for a parallel loop) or did he have two flow meters (and measured both halves of the loop at the same time).
If he tested both halves at the same time then the numbers are fine, but the misrepresentation of the other pumps is not. He should have tested the other pumps with Y's and parallel loops as well. I mean, you have a road that splits into two parallel roads then goes back to one road. You measure 4 cars per minute go down path A, and 6 cars per minute go down path B. Obviously the number of cars that go down the road before and after the split is 10 cars per minute. Parallel paths are additive, so *IF* those numbers for each parallel path are correct and were measured properly then YES the pump is putting out 3.47 GPM. Skinee really didn't give enough documentation on how he ran the tests though. I really want to see an accurate comparison of what the other pump tops can do when setup in parallel. |
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