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Obsessed · 02-07-2010, 08:35 PM

Is this D Plug essentially the same thing as this Male to Male as far as function if I were to attach a ddc to the bottom?

**slpdLoad** · 02-07-2010, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Obsessed

Is this D Plug essentially the same thing as this Male to Male as far as function if I were to attach a ddc to the bottom?

The difference is that with the D-Plug, you'll be able to twist the pump and reservoir into whatever position you need. With the male to male fitting, you're stuck with whatever alignment you get when the fittings are tight. Too much adjustment could loosen the connection and cause a leak.

I've used both, and they both work, but the D-plugs are much easier to work with.

**Marne** · 02-07-2010, 08:39 PM

correct. i use one of those myself. EK 250 res directly to a Bitspower top for a MCP 655/D5 pump

**trfnj74** · 02-07-2010, 08:39 PM

In theory yes, but the D Plug is more versatile as it can be helpful in more situations...

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Originally Posted by Obsessed

Is this D Plug essentially the same thing as this Male to Male as far as function if I were to attach a ddc to the bottom?

ablatman · 02-07-2010, 08:48 PM

The issue with using a D-plug is that there isn't any mechanism other than friction to keep the D-plug connected. I wouldn't feel comfortable having a DDC suspended by a d-plug on the inlet. If you're going to run the pump D-plugged to the res, then make sure you've got the pump and res firmly mounted to the case so that they can't move and disconnect on you...

**Marne** · 02-07-2010, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ablatman

The issue with using a D-plug is that there isn't any mechanism other than friction to keep the D-plug connected. I wouldn't feel comfortable having a DDC suspended by a d-plug on the inlet. If you're going to run the pump D-plugged to the res, then make sure you've got the pump and res firmly mounted to the case so that they can't move and disconnect on you...

agreed. it literally slides right into each other. if your going to use a D plug , i HIGHLY suggest planting the combo somewhere SOLID. like the bottom of the case. check out my buildlog to see how i have mine run. hanging the res will no doubt separate it from the pump/top and cause an exxon valdez sized leak lol. hell i think it wouldn't even hold together dry let alone filled.

Obsessed · 02-07-2010, 08:53 PM

Edited: Question answered.

Thanks a ton. I'm looking at some more options now. Thanks a ton.

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Originally Posted by Marne_Aeok

correct. i use one of those myself. EK 250 res directly to a Bitspower top for a MCP 655/D5 pump

**Marne** · 02-07-2010, 09:10 PM

here you can see where i have the pump and top securely mounted. EK resevoir above it. Dplug between. now if i tried to just have the pump floating it would no doubt separate.

right after i actually get off my ass to help lol

all good. glad you found the answer to your question. please by all means continue to ask and learn. your only an idiot if you DIDNT ask and buttfuck your hardware due to shyness/pride (im so awesome i dont NEED to ask anyone shit. ill figure this all on my own.....FAIL lol

)

talladega · 02-07-2010, 09:16 PM

If is not mounted on something and pump needs to hang from it you could use these:

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/bishsimatoma1.html and http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/bishsig14ana.html

**Marne** · 02-07-2010, 09:16 PM

there we go

Obsessed · 02-07-2010, 09:52 PM

Thanks a ton man. I'm looking at your solution with the D Plug and the 655 with the BP top. Shitty thing though is that they don't have the D-Plug in the Matte Black.

Thanks for the help Marne, but damn man, your wires look like a ratsnest of incest.

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Originally Posted by Marne_Aeok

there we go

ablatman · 02-07-2010, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Marne_Aeok

[IMG]...[You're] only an idiot if you [DON'T] ask and buttfuck your hardware due to shyness/pride...

You're so sigable sometimes Marne....

**Marne** · 02-07-2010, 10:19 PM

i know LOL

**Septim** · 02-07-2010, 10:33 PM

Marne, those are better angled pictures now, makes much more sense. hehe..

**Snyxxx** · 02-08-2010, 01:22 AM

Marne, is that one of those vortex preventer fittings from BP inside the reservoir? If so, I think that would restrict flow and starve the pump on the suction side.

I worry about a performance hit. Have you checked flow rate with and without? I would be curious.

**Marne** · 02-08-2010, 01:26 AM

i dont get so heavy into it as to flow rates and this and that

maybe on the next iteration im planning i will finally step my game up and join the big boys when it comes to WCing

**Septim** · 02-08-2010, 01:50 AM

Marne do i smell and RD30, maybe you pawned off Red...

**Crow** · 02-08-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ablatman

IandH's res is better for a few reasons:

First and foremost is the clamps -- they're really heavy duty and made with quality metal parts as opposed to the cheap plastic everyone else is using. Petra's selling them for $25 USD per set. You get a pair with the reservior -- the version Petra is selling is the 175mm, and he's priced it at $55 USD. It's a bit more expensive than other similar tube reservoirs of around that size, but again it comes with a set of those clamps that seem to be so far above and beyond what anyone else is selling.

Next is the design -- the cap has around an inch clearance above the clear acrylic tube so that you can have the tube appear completely full without a lot of difficulty. This is especially useful when using dyes -- you don't get visible stain lines as the water level is above the top of the clear portion.

Next is the quality of the source materials, and the workmanship -- those end caps are milled from solid stock, and not molded like the current generation EK tops. -- and the tubes are a LOT thicker than the competition -- and the threads are cut on the OUTSIDE of the tube as opposed to the inside (which everyone else does), which means that you don't see the threads as they are concealed by the top and bottom caps.

Basically, it's a bit more expensive, but it's more expensive for a reason -- it's a small-scale product that has been designed to be hands down better than the competition.

Umm...

http://www.realredraider.com/vbullet...0&postcount=41

Nuff' said.

Obsessed · 02-08-2010, 03:27 PM

Thank you all for your input. I placed the order. I was going to run it by you guys first but I had shit to do and couldn't post till right now and I was in a rush earlier to get the order in.

Well here it is.........

BP Matte Black 3/8" comp for 5/8" OD x12

Bitspower D5 Replacement Top x1

Bitspower Matt Black Rotary 45 x2

MCP655 pump - with Speed Controller x1

Bitspower Matt Black Male to Male fitting x1 (for the res to pump attach)

Iandh 225 Stealth Reservoir

and a few BP Matte Black Stop fittings

I decided to go with D5 and do like marne has. I have a few questions though....

Marne: That top is labled as out, is it ok for res to sit on it like that? I thought that the fluid went out that way?

Hey Red, Gary said to return his damn call.

ensign.fodder · 02-08-2010, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Obsessed

Marne: That top is labled as out, is it ok for res to sit on it like that? I thought that the fluid went out that way?

Excellent question, I had never looked at the flow path on the D5.

**Septim** · 02-08-2010, 05:53 PM

that bitspower d5 top has 2 side ports, one is labeled in, while on the opposite side is out...
then the top ports in and out, so 4 ports in total...

ensign.fodder · 02-08-2010, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Septim

that bitspower d5 top has 2 side ports, one is labeled in, while on the opposite side is out...
then the top ports in and out, so 4 ports in total...

I checked it out on Sidewinders and see what you are talking about, he has the top "upside down"

Cool.

ablatman · 02-08-2010, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Septim

that bitspower d5 top has 2 side ports, one is labeled in, while on the opposite side is out...
then the top ports in and out, so 4 ports in total...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ensign.fodder

I checked it out on Sidewinders and see what you are talking about, he has the top "upside down"

Cool.

Thank you both for clarifying that -- I had originally jumped to the same conclusion.

Obsessed · 02-08-2010, 08:48 PM

Ok got the stuff and I'm trying to get it all put together atm.

Wanted to know though........

My pump was originally thought dead. I however have resuscitated it somehow and I was just wondering, can the D5 work at sub par performance or if it's dead, does it just die?

I have uploaded a video to see if you guys can tell me if it's operating at full capacity, I have it turned up all the way.

Thanks for any comments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n27_nYE9vyI

Edit: I just put enough Distilled in it to test it and make sure it was working (along with that particular reservoir because I was afraid the comps didn't go in as far as they needed to).

**Floyd** · 02-08-2010, 09:24 PM

Hard to tell with the water falling like that. Do a test horizontal, you can see the arc and see what the flow is like then.
From the first vid it looks fine though.

02-07-2010, 08:39 PM	#28
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02-07-2010, 09:10 PM	#33
Marne Subaru Pedopig Stares @ U Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 2,570	here you can see where i have the pump and top securely mounted. EK resevoir above it. Dplug between. now if i tried to just have the pump floating it would no doubt separate. right after i actually get off my ass to help lol all good. glad you found the answer to your question. please by all means continue to ask and learn. your only an idiot if you DIDNT ask and buttfuck your hardware due to shyness/pride (im so awesome i dont NEED to ask anyone shit. ill figure this all on my own.....FAIL lol) __________________ FUCK YOU FROZEN Q. YOU'RE A THIEVING PLAGUE ON THE WATERCOOLING HOBBY. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Buy My Stuff - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Marne; 02-07-2010 at 10:18 PM.

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Septim Voice of Wisdom Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: where 35C ambients is normal Posts: 1,905	Marne, those are better angled pictures now, makes much more sense. hehe.. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Computer operating 24/7 not doing anything? Don't waste that idle CPU power! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Join up with our teams on WorldCommunityGrid or Folding@Home This is for a good cause. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. to Join, simply click here: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

02-07-2010, 08:35 PM	#26
Obsessed WeakSauce Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 23	Is this D Plug essentially the same thing as this Male to Male as far as function if I were to attach a ddc to the bottom?

02-07-2010, 08:48 PM	#30
ablatman RRR jr. Join Date: May 2009 Location: Southeastern Pensyltucky Posts: 2,577	The issue with using a D-plug is that there isn't any mechanism other than friction to keep the D-plug connected. I wouldn't feel comfortable having a DDC suspended by a d-plug on the inlet. If you're going to run the pump D-plugged to the res, then make sure you've got the pump and res firmly mounted to the case so that they can't move and disconnect on you...

02-07-2010, 09:16 PM	#34
talladega Liquid Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Winkler, MB, Canada Posts: 480	If is not mounted on something and pump needs to hang from it you could use these: http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/bishsimatoma1.html and http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/bishsig14ana.html

02-08-2010, 01:22 AM	#40
Snyxxx Pushing Water & Oil Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,503	Marne, is that one of those vortex preventer fittings from BP inside the reservoir? If so, I think that would restrict flow and starve the pump on the suction side. I worry about a performance hit. Have you checked flow rate with and without? I would be curious. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

02-08-2010, 01:26 AM	#41
Marne Subaru Pedopig Stares @ U Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 2,570	i dont get so heavy into it as to flow rates and this and that maybe on the next iteration im planning i will finally step my game up and join the big boys when it comes to WCing __________________ FUCK YOU FROZEN Q. YOU'RE A THIEVING PLAGUE ON THE WATERCOOLING HOBBY. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Buy My Stuff - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

02-08-2010, 01:50 AM	#42
Septim Voice of Wisdom Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: where 35C ambients is normal Posts: 1,905	Marne do i smell and RD30, maybe you pawned off Red... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Computer operating 24/7 not doing anything? Don't waste that idle CPU power! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Join up with our teams on WorldCommunityGrid or Folding@Home This is for a good cause. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. to Join, simply click here: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

02-08-2010, 03:27 PM	#44
Obsessed WeakSauce Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 23	Thank you all for your input. I placed the order. I was going to run it by you guys first but I had shit to do and couldn't post till right now and I was in a rush earlier to get the order in. Well here it is......... BP Matte Black 3/8" comp for 5/8" OD x12 Bitspower D5 Replacement Top x1 Bitspower Matt Black Rotary 45 x2 MCP655 pump - with Speed Controller x1 Bitspower Matt Black Male to Male fitting x1 (for the res to pump attach) Iandh 225 Stealth Reservoir and a few BP Matte Black Stop fittings I decided to go with D5 and do like marne has. I have a few questions though.... Marne: That top is labled as out, is it ok for res to sit on it like that? I thought that the fluid went out that way? Hey Red, Gary said to return his damn call.

02-08-2010, 05:53 PM	#46
Septim Voice of Wisdom Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: where 35C ambients is normal Posts: 1,905	that bitspower d5 top has 2 side ports, one is labeled in, while on the opposite side is out... then the top ports in and out, so 4 ports in total... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Computer operating 24/7 not doing anything? Don't waste that idle CPU power! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Join up with our teams on WorldCommunityGrid or Folding@Home This is for a good cause. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. to Join, simply click here: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

02-08-2010, 08:48 PM	#49
Obsessed WeakSauce Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 23	Ok got the stuff and I'm trying to get it all put together atm. Wanted to know though........ My pump was originally thought dead. I however have resuscitated it somehow and I was just wondering, can the D5 work at sub par performance or if it's dead, does it just die? I have uploaded a video to see if you guys can tell me if it's operating at full capacity, I have it turned up all the way. Thanks for any comments. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n27_nYE9vyI Edit: I just put enough Distilled in it to test it and make sure it was working (along with that particular reservoir because I was afraid the comps didn't go in as far as they needed to). Last edited by Obsessed; 02-08-2010 at 08:50 PM.

02-08-2010, 09:24 PM	#50
Floyd Mmm Chimichangas Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Southern MD Posts: 3,520	Hard to tell with the water falling like that. Do a test horizontal, you can see the arc and see what the flow is like then. From the first vid it looks fine though. __________________ -MURDERED- Q6600 (3.2) 4gig DDR3 Gskill Black Pi Ram (1600 Meg) Asus Striker II NSE (790i) 2X EVGA 275 GTX Watercooling: GTZ, FC-275, BIX 240, BIX 360, 355, XSPC Dual Bay CoolerMaster HAF 932 Corsair HX1000W

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