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HESmelaugh
06-26-2009, 08:03 AM
EDIT: Yay, new subforum! Thanks. ;)

Externals

http://www.abload.de/img/06iqtr.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/256tev.jpg

The BP-top is made of black nickel plated brass, while the KL-top consists of two layers: One thin acrylic sheet and a polished stainless steel cover. Both surfaces are highly reflective and also very prone to getting smudged up by fingerprints.


BP
http://www.abload.de/img/054sfh.jpg

KL
http://www.abload.de/img/262qqa.jpg

The bases of the two blocks are very similar. On the one hand, they both need to have the same "topography" of course, since they need to fit the same mainboard. But they are also both made from black nickel plated copper.

These surfaces are also highly reflective and it's almost a bit of a pity that you'll never see them once the blocks are installed:

http://www.abload.de/img/046psc.jpg


Internals

Let's have a look inside these blocks:

http://www.abload.de/img/33fuwv.jpg

The BP-Block has it's channels in the top as well as the bottom part. This will probably benefit flow.

http://www.abload.de/img/31nuxn.jpg

The KL-Block has a rough pin structure above the SB and the typical red o-ring.
Here you can see the three layers (well, you can clearly see two of them, at least) the KL block consists of:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/30zrvo.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=30zrvo.jpg)


More Blocks

Since the Rampage II Extreme has a so called QPI-DRAM power card that is elevated above the rest of the mainboard, the manufacturers needed to find a way to cool components on two different layers. Here are the QPI-DRAM blocks:

http://www.abload.de/img/35pt3m.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/27gol2.jpg

The Bitspower version has a POM-top while the FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU one is made from the same materials as the main FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU block.
FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU uses a special bridgeing fitting to connect the two blocks, Bitspower provides a D-Plug fitting. Both methods work equally well.

Here are the Bitspower Mosfet blocks:

http://www.abload.de/img/11m6lm.jpg

They also have POM-tops and are engraved with the BP-Dragon, which I think is a very nice detail.
I couldn't get a hold of FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU Mosfet-blocks but I got some made by MIPS instead:

http://www.abload.de/img/3281cr.jpg

Being MIPS blocks, they are, naturally, f***ing gorgeous (pic doesn't do them justice).


Blemishes

Unfortunately, both main blocks were slightly blemished:

http://www.abload.de/img/37i4hv.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/38w6xo.jpg

Of course, this doesn't mean that they are all going to be blemished. But still, one would hope that something like this just doesn't happen when shelling out the cash necessary for these blocks. If you aren't a perfectionist, you may not even mind.


Installation

The installation for both sets was "easy". I write that in quotation marks because installing a complete mainboard waterblock set isn't exactly hassle-free in any case. It's a lot more work than installing a CPU-block, for example. But the installation is still easy in the sense that both blocks are well thought out and they don't have any weaknesses that would make the installation process more difficult than it already is.
For installation instructions, check out my Video (http://www.dexgo.com/index.php?site=Videos/view.php&id=12).

Both sets look great once installed on the mainboard:

http://www.abload.de/img/39f3ez.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/22s44f.jpg
(Fittings not included with either set)


Testing

I did a relatively simple test with these blocks, since in my opinion, mainboard temperatures aren't as sensitive or as important to most people as CPU temperatures. So I didn't do multiple mounts and that kind of thing. Instead, I set up a simple little loop consisting of the blocks and:

- Laing DDC with EK X-Res top
- 13/10 (3/8") Masterkleer-Tubing
- HWLabs Black Ice GTS 140 Radiator
- 1x Sharkoon System Fan Power @ 12V
- 4x analogue temperature probes measuring water temperature
- 3x digital temperature probes measuring ambient temperature
- GMR flowmeter
- T-Balancer bigNG plus Sensorhub

No other blocks except the MB-blocks were in this loop. I tested by running Prime95 small FFT for 45 minutes and then noting water, ambient and NB as well as SB temperatures. I also logged and noted the flowrates achieved.
Let's get to the results.


Flow

http://www.abload.de/img/flowgpmf42y.jpg

I tested the FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU set with the MIPS blocks as well as the Bitspower blocks. This shows that the main block combination by FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU is more restrictive than that by Bitspower and it also shows that the mosfet-blocks by MIPS are also more restrictive than those by Bitspower.


Temperature

To measure a waterblocks relevant performance, the temperature of the component (here the SB or NB) is substracted from the water temperature. This shows the cooling potential of each block:

http://www.abload.de/img/tempsenb603.jpg

As we can see, for both the NB and SB temperatures, the Bitspower block performs a bit better. This is partially due to the fact that the BP blocks come with Arctic Silver 5 as their thermal grease, while the KL blocks use "generic" thermal grease. I tested each block with it's respective grease, though in retrospect, I guess I should have tested them with using the same stuff.
Anyway, the differences are pretty marginal compared to what you get with the stock cooling.
At 24° C ambient temperature, on an open test-bench, NB and SB temps would reach 61° C and 60° C respectively with the stock heatsinks.
The temperatures with either the FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU or the Bitspower set will be vastly better than this unless your water is scorching hot (> 50° C). So ultimately, both sets get the job more than done.


Conclusion

Concerning flow and cooling performance, the Bitspower block definitely wins this one, albeit by a small margin.
For me personally, looks are just as important as performance for MB blocks. I am not going to use the RIIE for myself but if I were, I mus say I'd be hard pressed to choose between the two sets. They are very different, but I like the design of either one. Both are well-made and both make the RIIE look really nice. Ultimately, if performance and flow are very important to you, I recommend the Bitspower blocks. If performance is secondary, simply follow your gut and get the blocks that appeal to you most.

I hope you enjoyed this small test-report. For some more pics, check out the original, German article on DeXgo.com (http://www.dexgo.com/index.php?site=artikel/view.php&rubrik=Hardware&id=393).
Also, you can see my installation video in English here (http://www.dexgo.com/index.php?site=Videos/view.php&id=12) on DeXgo or here (http://www.youtube.com/user/DeXgocom) in my Youtube-Channel.

Cheers,
Shane

ZeniTH
06-26-2009, 08:15 AM
Thanks again Hes for taking time !!!!! Great job !!

MomijiTMO
06-26-2009, 08:46 AM
YES

I've been waiting for these kinds of reviews for what feels like an eternity. I think all mosfet blocks are too restrictive to be of any use [use not including bling. If you like the looks of them, go ahead!]. We all focused on cpu flow tests but Skinnee or whatever tested the Enzotech mosfet block and it was hella restrictive.

I didn't really like the look of the FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU blocks and the BP ones are better designed albeit more expensive.

CrazyJoe
06-26-2009, 10:55 AM
Great review Hes !

Thanks for all the hard work and time involved too ! :up:

Xilikon
06-26-2009, 11:00 AM
Great review Hes !

Thanks for all the hard work and time involved too ! :up:

I'll have to second this, great review.

:bird: FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU

RedRaider
06-26-2009, 11:07 AM
GREAT REVIEW !!!!!

Hey NaeKunt.... Your beloved FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU blocks SUCK...


FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU...:bj3:...BitsPower

:bird: FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU

Worthy
06-26-2009, 11:12 AM
YES

I've been waiting for these kinds of reviews for what feels like an eternity. I think all mosfet blocks are too restrictive to be of any use [use not including bling. If you like the looks of them, go ahead!]. We all focused on cpu flow tests but Skinnee or whatever tested the Enzotech mosfet block and it was hella restrictive.

I didn't really like the look of the FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU blocks and the BP ones are better designed albeit more expensive.

If you are using any cpu block that is worth half a shit (since restrictive seems to be synonymous with GOOD), the mosfet blocks are of no consequence.

And flow as we KNOW is way overrated.

ILikeCosmosS
06-26-2009, 11:17 AM
red is so predictable when it comes to bp vs FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU :rofl:

kpablo
06-26-2009, 06:39 PM
The FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU one look so cheap...

CrazyJoe
06-26-2009, 09:47 PM
Just an observation, but maybe you have some insight Hes ... why the huge nonuniformity between the two blocks concerning the machined contact point for the X58 chipset ?
The BP area is HUGE in comparison to the "just big enough" FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU. :confused:

Worthy
06-26-2009, 10:36 PM
Just an observation, but maybe you have some insight Hes ... why the huge nonuniformity between the two blocks concerning the machined contact point for the X58 chipset ?
The BP area is HUGE in comparison to the "just big enough" FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU. :confused:

Also, there is like NO cooling structure in the FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU for the NB, yet for the SB there is.

Seems like this block didnt have a lot of thought put into it, whereas the BP has a great design.
Don't laugh, but this is the first time I have seen the internals, I never opened mine. haha

HESmelaugh
06-27-2009, 02:10 AM
I wouldn't think that the size of the contact area makes any difference. The BP block definitely has the advantage of two cooling structures and, more importantly, a larger water-channel since it's milled into the top and base.

But keep in mind that the FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU block can be used on it's own, while leaving the original heatsink on the QPI DRAM power card.
If you opt for this, you have a significantly cheaper solution. The downside of this is that there is no space for cooling sturctures above the NB.

CrazyJoe
06-27-2009, 05:54 AM
I watched your video tutorial for installing the FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU block in order to get a better look at the X58 chipset on this board ... just in case there was some unknown item requiring the larger surface area the BP block has.
Didn't see a thing.
Regardless, another excellent tutorial ! :up:

Eagleizer
09-03-2009, 07:47 PM
Thanks a lot!

ronaldjoe
08-06-2010, 08:10 PM
Thanks for the review