Project: Formal Black

[Cutless009]

It all starts with the first delivery:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3106.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3110.jpg

Mmmmm, parts:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3113.jpg

Then the second delivery came!

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3175.jpg

mmm hardware <3

Lets start in on those graphics cards!

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3183.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3178.jpg

The XSPC Razor for 4870x2

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3170.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3160-1.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3162-1.jpg

It has standoffs, but they arent long enough (come on people, if you're going to add them at least MEASURE so they are the right length!)

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3221.jpg

Before replacing the dual-slot brackets with single slots:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3187.jpg

Next up, removed the stock heatspreaders from the ram (which turned out to be aluminum, not even copper as the COPPER COLORED PAINT would lead one to believe), and put on the Enzotech Unicorn's:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3126.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3128.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3130.jpg

now thats some pr0n!

Installed:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3186.jpg

Now for that CPU:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3185.jpg

mmmmmmm

The early days:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3205.jpg

One of 11 Ultra Kaze high speed 3,000rpm 12v fans:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3216.jpg

Nice fit in there, ben does a great job on these cases.

Back panel parts all painted and mounted, single slot brackets for graphics cards installed:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3240.jpg

Mounting up parts:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3384.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3362.jpg

And here are the latest updates!

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/th_FBProg2.jpg (http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/?action=view&current=FBProg2.flv)

You can find more pictures in my photobucket album for this project Here (http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/)

You can find more videos of progress up to this point and some tests Ive done on my youtube page Here (http://www.youtube.com/user/Cutless9610)

[RedRaider]

:welcome2:

We're happy to have you...:D

I hope you enjoy our little corner of the web...:coolup:

[bigslappy]

YUP WELCOME !!

[Cutless009]

Thanks guys lookin forward to it :)

[jtf2]

Reserved :) More than happy to come here after being banned from XS for insulting MYSELF LOL!! Fun stuff :) All the awesome people are here anyways :D Thanks for the invite R3

please tell me you are joking,about the banning at xs?

[Cutless009]

LOL nope, got banned for insulting myself :P

[Cutless009]

Man I cant update this till my copper and TruBrite get here, and that wont be till wednsday at the earliest >> SO MUCH FAIL *sigh* And I have to have this done by friday :(

[PIKE_SD]

LOL nope, got banned for insulting myself :P

hate to break it to you man, but you got banned for explicitly implying an administrator was a terrorist in multiple instances in multiple threads, nothing to be salty about there, you dug your own grave with racist statements :fact:

I hope you will continue your log on both sides of the fence :)

[Cutless009]

^lol proof or it didn't happen, period. And even if you show me, Im prolly gonna tell you it was planted there, because I know what I said and didnt say.


Anyways, got my prototype panel from ben today, made the final corrections to the CAD file and tossed it back his way. Waiting on a quote to put the final wheels in motion :up:

Here's what the acrylic prototype looked like so you can get an idea for what the drive bay covers are going to look like:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3431.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3433.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/IMG_3434.jpg

[Cutless009]

Sweet mailman was running late, just dropped off my BigNG and Bitspower Powerstation:up:

[Cutless009]

updated first post with progress thus far :up: just waiting on parts right now ^_^ its almost ready for the final build and bootup!

[Cutless009]

So I think its time this project got a name, somtn simple and short, classy, any ideas?

[Cutless009]

New name, new design

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/NewPanel-1.jpg

:cool:

Comments?

*edit* image fixed :cool:

[Cutless009]

Heres another view for you guys to ponder over :up: I'd really love to hear comments on this ^_^
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/NewPanel1.jpg

[zlojack]

Cutless, this shit is awesome! :up:

[RedRaider]

Heres another view for you guys to ponder over :up: I'd really love to hear comments on this ^_^
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/NewPanel1.jpg

I LIKE IT, TO THUMBS UP.....:2up:

[The[R]eaper]

Wow that is freakin' killer!!!

is that a render or real pic? i cant tell:whoa:

[Xilikon]

Must be a render since the middle of the P is floating on nothing...

[The[R]eaper]

whoops missed that...

[smee]

Must be a render since the middle of the P is floating on nothing...

ROFLCOPTER!! I was like wow!! Great render! Then you pointed out the P..... xD

Dis would be a great april fools pic........ ;)

Looks great Cutless! :up:

[Cutless009]

Just wait till january, itll be for reals :up:

[zlojack]

Hey Cutless, I'm interested in seeing a little more about your planned incorporation of the drain ports.

I'm thinking about acquiring one of these cases at some point this year and for me, building in easy drainability for part swapping is key.

I see you've put ports down at the bottom. How do you plan to include them in the loop?

[Cutless009]

The bottom drain ports are linked into the loop with a Q fitting right in front of the pumps outlet, which has 1x BP Temp Sensor Stop fitting, 1x 1/2"ID 3/4" OD compression fitting, and then off the last side theres two BP Extension Fittings, and a 90" Rotary which leads back to the drain port.

With the whole system off, the fill ports (which are on the top of the case at the back) can be blown into and the whole system will drain through the drain ports. The fittings on the top of the case have rotary adapters fitted to them so they can be easily taken off the top of the case so you can take the top panel off to get to the main hardware for maintenence (as its a fill port it shouldnt have water in it at an given time).

[zlojack]

Nice...

I'd love to see a few more pics of that if you ever get a chance to take them.

[Cutless009]

Sure, Im headed home on the 23rd, when I get back I'll take pics for you right after I get everything back together, its mostly apart atm for final build (was waiting on some mesh from McMaster to finish off the fan grills which are attached to the front panel via the screws that hold the rads/fans on which the pumps are mounted to so I cant do anything till they are finished lol).

[zlojack]

Dude, all your pics are down :(

[Cutless009]

Yah I know, as soon as I get my new pump back from NCIX (next Wednesday most likely) all I have to do is finish what little wiring I cant do without the pump in place and cut and mount the tubing for the fill holes and Simplicity (FB) is done and I'll be posting new pictures.

[Langer]

That drive bay stealthing plate is nice but it's too "MurderMod" for my liking.

[Cutless009]

That drive bay stealthing plate is nice but it's too "MurderMod" for my liking.

wtf is a murdermod? Is that like when I kill someone by cramming a DDC down their throat into their stomach and pump its contents directly into their mouth and watch their face melt off?


*edit* wtf I have almost 500 posts? Thats more than Ive ever had on ANY forum Ive been on before.. and Ive been on some for.... well since I was like 16 o.o

[Langer]

MurderMod store:
www.murdermod.com

MurderBox's built by CharlesH (the founder of Murdermod and a Canadian - Vancouver):
www.murderbox.com

His cases are absolutely beautiful and his work is top-notch. But I like a mod to present itself as unique and experimental (ie: bleeding edge innovative ideas) and the MurderMod look has just become too mainstream. Charles really made sleeving individual wires a must-have option in any mod, and he's certainly made the TJ07 an incredibly popular case (and it's well deserved; it's a nice case).

Here's a nice gallery of beautiful PCs... most of which are a bit to simple for my liking - but undeniably pretty.
www.million-dollar-pc.com

[Cutless009]

so there are now 235409723 and 42 people with the same exact blanking plate? Thats retarded. Why dont we all just put our PC's in a plain white box while we're at it so we can all be the same!

[Langer]

Its nice work, but unfortunately it's too popular now.

It's ironic really... like cloning unicorns.

Just wanted you to have a heads up before you spend the monies.

[zlojack]

Not really, guys.

Murdermods is not exactly mass production.

They are available, but I bet there aren't more than a hundred in the world using them.

[Langer]

Yeah but there a lot of people building their own MurderMods in the same style.

[zlojack]

Yeah..but it's still a very small fraction.

I mean, I undertstand what you guys are saying, but at the end of the day, it's a small number, relatively speaking.

[smee]

A white box............ hmmmmmmm....... that sounds fun. :D

[Cutless009]

Not that anyone cares anymore, christ it was forever ago it seems that I started this build, but shes ALMOST DONE. Finally got both loops filled and running pure distilled (thank you iandh and petra), almost ready for the power on test.

I had a hell of a time with leakage on the CPU loop. I ended up busting out the teflon tape in the end, I think it was cuz I had screwed/unscrewed into acrylic so much I'd worn out the seal around the outside. Anyways, its all good to go now! Enjoy the vid, Ill post more after I get a chance to get her booted up and OC'd!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce-Azy3SOfU

[Xilikon]

WTF is with the PB pics in the first post ?

[Cutless009]

WTF is with the PB pics in the first post ?

had to adjust photobucket to line up with forum specs and it broke the pictures.

[Langer]

umm... I'm going to throw a crazy idea out there...

Fix 'em you lazy Texan!

lol

[Cutless009]

Dude, Im in excruciating pain, Im doing good to be able to sit up for 10 minutes at a time, and Im making progress on this build, why dont you just go to my photobucket and look through the album?

http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/Simplicity/


P.S. Im scared shitless atm cuz I plugged everything in and went to boot it, and I heard a loud SNAP and the whole thing shut down instantly. I reset it and plugged it back in, and it seems ok... but I dunno... that scared the crap outta me.

[zlojack]

Nice work Cutless!

[Xilikon]

Hey lazy Texan, I fixed ya PB links !

[Cutless009]

Thank you, you're my hero <3

[Cutless009]

Hmmm plugged her in and booted her up, no video signal at all, from either card..... suggestions? ideas?

[Langer]

Re-seat the cards, try running 1 stick of RAM, so on. Try the usual.

Do you have an OS on it yet?

[Cutless009]

Re-seat the cards, try running 1 stick of RAM, so on. Try the usual.

Do you have an OS on it yet?

Done all of that, I cant even get the screen to come on, it is seriously like the whole system boots up, but does absolutely nothing, I even plugged in a PC speaker, and it does nothing but the intial beep when you turn on the system. LCD Poster also does nothing when you turn the system on. Ive never seen anything like this :confused:

[zlojack]

Check to makd sure the waterblocks aren't shorting the cards. That was a problem with the EK block, though I hadn't heard about it with the XSPC

[Cutless009]

Check to makd sure the waterblocks aren't shorting the cards. That was a problem with the EK block, though I hadn't heard about it with the XSPC

I couldnt even screw it down all the way because of poor standoffs... how would I check to see if its shorting the card?

[zlojack]

Put the stock heatsink back on and test it. :(

[Langer]

Does the mobo you're using have onboard video? See if it's able to display.


To see if your block was shorting you'll have to take it off and examine the card.
I'd hate to think this but that 'snap' you heard earlier could have been a cap blowing, and perhaps it's now caused a bigger problem.

Lets just hope you haven't released the magic blue smoke.

[Cutless009]

Oh wow..... uh..... gonna put that on the "last resort" list.... I JUST got the loops up and running xD

[Langer]

Can you just unplug the cards and test with another air cooled card?
At least then you'll be certain it's the cards and not something else.

Do you have all the necessary power going to the cards? Are you certain you aren't maxing out the PSU.
It may be a bum PSU... that's stretching it though. Do you ave a multimeter to test it's output?

Otherwise, I don't know what else to say.

I'd check the cards either way though.

[Cutless009]

Well its a 1600watt Ultra PSU....

lets see....

math....


yah not breaking more than 200v before the system itself... so that shouldnt be a problem.

[Xilikon]

First of all, make sure the psu is working fine by unplugging everything then connect the green and black connectors together with something then plug it to see if it run. If it doesn't, the psu is borked (not surprising since it's a POS Ultra).

If it does work, you need to test it with the bare minimum (just 1 stick of ram, cpu, video card and motherboard). A sound like you described often mean a component cracked or popped, frying that part.

[Cutless009]

First of all, make sure the psu is working fine by unplugging everything then connect the green and black connectors together with something then plug it to see if it run. If it doesn't, the psu is borked (not surprising since it's a POS Ultra).

If it does work, you need to test it with the bare minimum (just 1 stick of ram, cpu, video card and motherboard). A sound like you described often mean a component cracked or popped, frying that part.

what woulda fried it there was nothing touching D:

Ive been testing with this PSU the whole time with it jumped like that so that the system wasnt on during leak testing etc, so Im sure the psu is fine.

[Langer]

Take off the blocks, if something shorted, then it was beneath the blocks. Look for little black burn marks, or cracked/popped components on the card surface.

You may even want to check the chips make sure you didn't crush one by over tightening.

[Cutless009]

Well I left the loop together, but checked all the components, theres no friedness/burn marks, everything looks perfectly normal on both cards, the ram, and the motherboard. I even reseated the CPU for good measure.


Ive never fried anything in my life, lets not hope that records come back to haunt me on this build! :(

[Langer]

Do you have another GPU to test? Unplug both cards and test with a replacement.

[Cutless009]

Ok well Im headed off to the emergency room, I'll do that as soon as I get back.

[Langer]

Oh dear?!?

What's the matter? If you don't mind my asking.

[Cutless009]

weee vicodin! Least the pain is gone. Apparently Ive given myself a hernia! Remember I said I was in excructiating pain? well I put my back out really badly a while back, and apparently Ive pushed it through into a hernia! Talk about sacrificing for the hobby.

[Langer]

Jesus... this little scenario wont be helping much I imagine.

Do keep us apprised of your progress here when you're up to it.

[Kayin]

Just so you know, you're not supposed to do that.

[Cutless009]

haha tell me about it....


and when Im up to it? shit I just went and tested another graphics card in it, takes more than that to stop me damnit xD

The bad news is.... new graphics card, same problem.



oh and for the record, vicodine does fuck all against pain when ur spinal cord is being pinched between to vertabrae.

[Langer]

Check the NB/SB make sure you didn't crack them.

Do you have more ddr3 or another i7 chip to swap out? My guess is no...


Something sounds like it's KIA... the tough part is figuring out which part.

[Jtrain]

Build looks great so far, hope you get everything working again.
Hope you start to feel better man that shits no joke.

[Cutless009]

Check the NB/SB make sure you didn't crack them.

Do you have more ddr3 or another i7 chip to swap out? My guess is no...


Something sounds like it's KIA... the tough part is figuring out which part.

its a 775, and I do have some, but Id have to pull them from another computer, and its currently in use, the ram is good I tested it, gonna slap one of the X2's into my other computer and test it, if its not that, I prolly cracked somtn on the mobo. My guess is its the NB if anything, pressed on it a good bit pushing tubing onto fittings.

[Xilikon]

So the video card and the ram is good. I bet 5$ it's the motherboard since it's almost impossible to kill a CPU unless you give him a hernia as well !

[Cutless009]

well, the only reason I can post this is because I have a laptop in my bed, I cant even sit up this morning. Seriously considering calling an ambulance, I think something more besides a hernia is wrong.

[zlojack]

Don't mess around.

Call one if you really feel that bad.

[Cutless009]

yah I just did, I cant even stand up, I tried and the pain was so bad I threw up. Man this is pathetic, since when is standing up spose to be so damn hard.

[Cutless009]

back from the ER. I have a ruptured disk and I've sprained my back. Im on percocet, two other pain killers, and a muscle relaxer. been ordered to stay in bed for at least 2 weeks, so no more working on FB for me for now :(

[coolmiester]

Back injuries are no laughing matter at all.

20 years ago had a pretty fast bike accident and fractured 5 vertebra and ended up in my local hospital in traction for 3 months (literally suspended off the bed with bolts top and bottom of my spine)........the good part, i was unconscious for the first week so didn't know much about it and that was followed by 6 months physio and learning to walk again.

I got to go back in at some point in my life to get two 12" titanium rods put in but the operation entails going in through my chest, removing all my vital organs so at present i put up with back pain and being 1.5" smaller than i was when i went it.

My friend wasn't so luck and bust his back for good so flees about in a wheel chair now.

Get well soon Cutless.

[Cutless009]

thanks cool, sounds like u had it even worse than I do! you still ride?

P.S. that side panel design for your build, thats pure awesome man, I love it.

[shazza]

Ouch ... wishing you a speedy recovery, Cutless.

[Langer]

ouch... sorry to hear that Cutless. I cracked a vertebra as a kid (fell off a jungle gym onto a tree stump) - I was down for about a month, it's no fun.

Goodluck with the healing. =)

[Cutless009]

Thanks for all the good wishes guys, I definitely need to get better quick cuz I have classes I cant miss, at my college every month is a semester! Lol I cant even stay awake for all the drugs Im on atm, and I still can barely walk its so painful!

[Xilikon]

Ouch, looks very painful :(

I wish you a speedy recovery so we can come back to business ;)

[Cutless009]

Amongst all the horrible things that have happened lately, including not qualifying for funds to finish school, THERE IS A RAY OF HOPE!!! I got FB to boot! THATS RIGHT! I fixed it! Or rather it wasnt broken to begin with! With all the pain I was in I forgot to plug in the four pin cable to the motherboard! I plugged it in, and VOILA! BOOTED! OMFG SO HAPY! Just ordered some chinese and bought mass alcohol to celebrate! WOOO!!

[CrazyJoe]

WOOTAGE ! :party:

Glad to hear that ... and here's hoping for a quick ( and as pain free as possible ) recovery ! :up:

[Cutless009]

Yah, Im just a little concerned, it seems like my loop isnt working, either of them. The CPU temps jumped right up to 75C before I turned it off, its like the water isnt moving or something.... is there any way the pumps could be running and the water NOT be flowing?

[Xilikon]

Yah, Im just a little concerned, it seems like my loop isnt working, either of them. The CPU temps jumped right up to 75C before I turned it off, its like the water isnt moving or something.... is there any way the pumps could be running and the water NOT be flowing?

I bet there's a airlock somewhere in the loop. I suggest you run the pump sporadically to unlock air bubbles until you see regular water movement with small bubbles.

[CrazyJoe]

... is there any way the pumps could be running and the water NOT be flowing?

Yes, it's possible.
You may want to try putting some restriction ( pinching ) the outlets of the pumps as you start them up. This usually helps to prime the pumps if there is a vapor lock involved. :up:

[Cutless009]

Well on the CPU lock, I can now see an air bubble inside the EK Supreme, but Im not sure how to get it out? I tried tilting the case all which way, but that didnt seem to help any. Any ideas?

[Septim]

tilt it some more... blow on the tubing to push more water in, and air out...

[coolmiester]

I just checked out your youtube video to see if i could see if there was anything obvious as to why your system ain't running properly..........man that thing sounds like an aircraft :eek:

[Cutless009]

haha yah, 11 Kaze Ultra 3k's at full blast is LOUD hehe.

[Langer]

Crap... I have 9 of those Scythes in Prometheus... is that what I get to look forward to?


I'm happy to hear about your booting success Cutless... there's nothing worse than replacing hardware for a build that's supposed to be making money.

[Lu(ky]

Looking good... :cool:

[Cutless009]

FB up and running at 4.1ghz with a 36C idle and 46C max load :) WOOT!

[coolmiester]

It should be below ambient with those fans lol.......only kidding :D

So what was up with the pump and how did you get it going in the end??

Glad its all sorted anyway.

[Cutless009]

The way the tubes were routed, there was a place with a huge cavitation the pump couldnt push past, I took the tube off, pre-filled it with water, and re-attached it, after the the pump self-primed the loop just fine :)

[Cutless009]

REVIVAL BITCHES.

New PARTS.

i7 920
EVGA X58 SLI
12gb OCZ DDR3 2000
Tri-SLI GTX 285
AC Cuplex DI2
Tri-SLI HK-285's w/bridge.

Pics:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/new1.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z6/Cutless1/new2.jpg

more to come later.

[Liu Kang]

Lookin' good, brother...

[Floyd]

Need more pics!
That case is huge!

[scraps]

HOLY HELL are those pci slots actually use able or are my eyes deceiving me with tri-sli? I think I just creamed my pants...and I have to drop my kids off with his mom, damn you Cutless, can't wait for this "later" time to come.

[ILikeCosmosS]

Tri-sli looks amazing! tri-sli connector looks much cleaner then bp d-plugs, looking foward to see more :up:

[just a noob]

updates?

[Cutless009]

ordering up a 2nd PSU (corsair 1000HX) to power the graphics cards, and a Black Freezer from BP to cool the motherboard, after that it should be plug and play.

[just a noob]

ordering up a 2nd PSU (corsair 1000HX) to power the graphics cards, and a Black Freezer from BP to cool the motherboard, after that it should be plug and play.

cool(i'm kind of thinkin about doing a build similar to elegant murder lol)

[Cutless009]

if you do it, keep me updated on it, it's a very complex and expensive build (total cost tally including hardware was estimated to be about $15,000 for that build, which is why it never got built).

[ablatman]

ordering up a 2nd PSU (corsair 1000HX) to power the graphics cards, and a Black Freezer from BP to cool the motherboard, after that it should be plug and play.

If you're on the EVGA E758 board, then I'd recommend the EK motherboard block set, especially for the mosfet block -- the Bitspower one, awesome though it is, doesn't cover everything that needs to be covered, thus why I don't recommend it. It is sexy though -- I had one for a few days due to a mixup with my block order for my Classified (E758 block is "EI58DP" Classified block is "EI58DP II")....

[Cutless009]

I have a couple things to custom order with gary, if he can get the EK one then I'll get it, otherwise it'll be a BP with a seperate mosfet block.

[just a noob]

if you do it, keep me updated on it, it's a very complex and expensive build (total cost tally including hardware was estimated to be about $15,000 for that build, which is why it never got built).

i figured as much lol, i'm thinking something like a ufo, and a pedestal with 5 triples in total

[ablatman]

I have a couple things to custom order with gary, if he can get the EK one then I'll get it, otherwise it'll be a BP with a seperate mosfet block.

Well even if you had to get it from somewhere else it'll still be cheaper than the Bitspower set after shipping -- the EK sets are like 110-120ish USD for BOTH blocks (NB/SB and mosfet). Basically, you get both blocks for around what you'd spend on just the Bitspower NB/SB.

I can understand going for looks over price (Getting the Bitspower Classified set over the EK Classified set) but going for looks over performance is completely different....

[just a noob]

Well even if you had to get it from somewhere else it'll still be cheaper than the Bitspower set after shipping -- the EK sets are like 110-120ish USD for BOTH blocks (NB/SB and mosfet). Basically, you get both blocks for around what you'd spend on just the Bitspower NB/SB.

I can understand going for looks over price (Getting the Bitspower Classified set over the EK Classified set) but going for looks over performance is completely different....

i think hesmelaugh did a test, and the bp beat out mips, and FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU(i think the mips mosfet block might have won vs the bp block though)

[Cutless009]

Well even if you had to get it from somewhere else it'll still be cheaper than the Bitspower set after shipping -- the EK sets are like 110-120ish USD for BOTH blocks (NB/SB and mosfet). Basically, you get both blocks for around what you'd spend on just the Bitspower NB/SB.

I can understand going for looks over price (Getting the Bitspower Classified set over the EK Classified set) but going for looks over performance is completely different....

its more about customer loyalty than it is price. I don't really care, its going to be within a couple of bucks anyways, and I'd rather support gary than one of these stupid tools who dont even know anything about what they sell.

[Cutless009]

BACK FROM THE DEAD

Watercool HEATKILLERŽ Rev3.0 for Socket 1366 - 84.95

HEATKILLERŽ Backplate 1366 - 7.95

Noise Isolator PSU Vibration Dampener Kit - 4.95x2

Dual DDC-Case LT Acryl - 39.95

Subtotal 142.75
Shipping 8.15
Tax 0.00
Total 150.90

[ablatman]

its more about customer loyalty than it is price. I don't really care, its going to be within a couple of bucks anyways, and I'd rather support gary than one of these stupid tools who dont even know anything about what they sell.

The reason I suggested not using the BP blocks for the EVGA E758 board is that there are a few chips that are covered by the original NB/SB HSF that aren't covered by the MOSFET block or the NB/SB block that BP sells. They ARE covered by the blocks from EK and MIPS, which is why I recommended them.

I'm sure you could (assuming that you haven't gotten the blocks already) get Gary to order you a set of the EK blocks the next time he puts in an order with EK...

[Cutless009]

The reason I suggested not using the BP blocks for the EVGA E758 board is that there are a few chips that are covered by the original NB/SB HSF that aren't covered by the MOSFET block or the NB/SB block that BP sells. They ARE covered by the blocks from EK and MIPS, which is why I recommended them.

I'm sure you could (assuming that you haven't gotten the blocks already) get Gary to order you a set of the EK blocks the next time he puts in an order with EK...

Have MIPS block on the way, with a Ram Cooler 5 accompanying it.