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Kayin
12-18-2008, 12:30 AM
FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU HX1320 (P)Review

By Rev. Edward "Kayin" Seales

First off, many thanks to Dean at FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU, this is an item for a "BlackOps" experiment in my lab. This is the only aluminum radiator I still know of in production, and I needed a non-copper radiator. Please leave all anti-aluminum bashing outside, there will be no copper in either the build or the review. So to speak.

With that out of the way, let's get down to brass (aluminum?) tacks. The radiator arrived on my door in a nice shipping container. It's face down so as to obscure shipping locations.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/KayinStorm/023-3.jpg

Inside is packing peanuts, cardboard bolsters and another box.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/KayinStorm/024-5.jpg

The same box is used for the 3x120 and 4x120 radiators. This is clearly marked as the 4x120.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/KayinStorm/026-3.jpg

Inside the box are four mounting screws, sixteen fan screws, and one big radiator.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/KayinStorm/029-3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/KayinStorm/046-4.jpg

This is a new feature on me-there is closed cell neoprene foam packed in each end to keep the fan flow only through the fins. EXCELLENT feature, older rads from FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU had round tanks and very little or fan mounting.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/KayinStorm/044-4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/KayinStorm/045-3.jpg

As you can see from the endcaps, it's still the same type design, however the fin count is MUCH higher than the older radiators. It should still work just fine with lower CFM fans, as it's not as tightly spaced as the Black Ice GTX480.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/KayinStorm/051-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/KayinStorm/057.jpg

As the pics show, it's longer than even that radiator, though not as thick, so lower static pressure fans should work pretty well.

The screw bungs are untreated aluminum, so as to not scratch paint into the rad itself. The internal configuration is off, while it's consistent with their old radiators, the ID is a bit disconcerting (roughly 3/8", I need digital calipers for that measurement) and the projections into the water path could create undue turbulence, leading to cavitation in the tubes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/KayinStorm/040-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/KayinStorm/061-1.jpg

However, the threading is still G1/4, as shown by this BitsPower Rotary 90.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/KayinStorm/058-1.jpg

One item of note-the radiator fan screws are NOT 6-32, they are something larger (I'm thinking M4, no screw gauge on hand-will check tomorrow.) This is a pic side by side with 6-32, it's in brass.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/KayinStorm/049-4.jpg

This will be installed in an experimental machine, and so far I'm really happy. I'd like once again to thank FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU for this, and thanks to RedRaider Technologies for making this review possible.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/KayinStorm/043-1.jpg

Happy Holidays, folks.
Septim
12-18-2008, 05:16 AM
looks good.
looking forward to more info.
Xilikon
12-18-2008, 06:18 AM
For the screws, those are indeed M4 (I have M4 and 6-32 screws myself so before replying, I compared both). It's the same threading size as HWLabs radiators.

I'm usually the one bashing aluminium/copper mixing and even me can check this with interest since it's a all-aluminium setup which is ok (the key word here is no mixing with other metals).
Kayin
12-18-2008, 09:34 AM
I'll just promise no mixing with copper. However, I have very interesting things planned for this...
Baleful
12-18-2008, 09:40 AM
Hmmm..... I wonder how the smaller internal config. will impact performance? Looking forward to more details!
bigslappy
12-18-2008, 10:00 AM
keep posting disregard the ppl who can't seem to figure out that u are NOT Mixing METALS

thread Crapping is Not Cool ......
Septim
12-18-2008, 10:06 AM
and some testing numbers, if possible...
Langer
12-18-2008, 10:12 AM
Do people actually buy on FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU products? If so WHY?

There are so many good watercooling companies out there.

The only thing FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU has going for them IMO is a very comprehensive product line and an intuitive website... which is all targeted at taking advantage of the watercooling noobies looking for the quick fix that's guaranteed to fit together.


The fact that the rad contains bare aluminum is just another case and point IMO. (I know you're up to something special Kayin... but the average user).
Kayin
12-18-2008, 10:13 AM
Those will come in time, I have to get my hands on some more stuff...
People who know what I'm doing know what I'm talking about.
bigslappy
12-18-2008, 10:20 AM
FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU has heard from the Watercoolers & has addressed most if not all of the problems they had in past

I must say NOT many MFG'ers do that in a timely way as FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU has , as most don't do anything but keep shilling the bad wares BUT not FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU
as i WAS a FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU critic myself just a short while ago BUT not now I like The way FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU has stepped up to the plate
Kayin
12-18-2008, 10:21 AM
I have not recommended this for any application other than my experiments (which you know about, as well) and I reserve all judgement until I am fully satisfied with ALL testing. I'm currently sourcing many items I need, so this is just a preview-and some of their design items are really nice, too. I'm of the opinion that if they get these rads replaced, they could top many companies out there, including Swiftech and DD, and I have some numbers to that claim, too...
zlojack
12-18-2008, 01:06 PM
Do people actually buy on FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU products? If so WHY?

There are so many good watercooling companies out there.

The only thing FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU has going for them IMO is a very comprehensive product line and an intuitive website... which is all targeted at taking advantage of the watercooling noobies looking for the quick fix that's guaranteed to fit together.


The fact that the rad contains bare aluminum is just another case and point IMO. (I know you're up to something special Kayin... but the average user).
On a lot of their products FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU has really stepped up to the plate and made changes. They really do listen to the community.

One area where they seem to lag behind is on their aluminum rads.
NAekuh
12-18-2008, 02:04 PM
One area where they seem to lag behind is on their aluminum rads.

lol u missed the thread where dean said, he was trying to work on this... but it was gonna take some time...

lol...

when i read that... Waterlogged and i went OMFG! the sky is falling!

And gave FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU a new sight in our eyes...

:rofl:
zlojack
12-18-2008, 02:06 PM
I didn't miss it.

I said "lag behind". None of their current new blocks have any alu or steel near any water. Their fittings are all brass now. So those areas are ahead of the rads.

When the non-alu rads come to market, they will no longer be lagging on that issue :)
Eddie3dfx
12-18-2008, 02:19 PM
One thing I'm wondering is why reservoirs and radiators aren't tapped for G3/8 given how big the ID is.
Well radiators aren't tapped, they used solders bung threadings.. I suppose one could pop it out reweld a new one on.