What PSU?

[mataribot]

In about a month, I am building new computer. Initially I was going to build a rig mainly for folding, However,there is little to no point with the upcoming changes to bigadv. Instead, I will build a rig for gamming.

I would like to find a high quality PSU with the following list of requirements:

1. >= 1k watts,
2. 100% modular,
3. Multi rail.

I guess my requirements are too high; I cannot find a PSU will all three of my requirements except for some crappy Enermax PSU. So I guess it is either Seasonic Platinum-1000 or the overused Corsair AX. If so what one?

[XMT_Systems]

There is a reason that Corsair is "overused". That's because they're the best without a doubt. I don't mind being a shill for Corsair psu's. I use them consistently in consumer, as well as corporate builds, and I've never purchased a bad one or had one fail on a customer.

[Snyxxx]

Single rail is more desirable. With multiple rails, the overload circuits can trip and you are SOL.

The other two are easy to find. I like Seasonic or Silverstone as well.

[xmanrigger]

There is a reason that Corsair is "overused". That's because they're the best without a doubt. I don't mind being a shill for Corsair psu's. I use them consistently in consumer, as well as corporate builds, and I've never purchased a bad one or had one fail on a customer.

What he said. ^^^

I have used the AX1200 and AX850, both X58 machines with dual GTX580s. Both of these machines were pushed to limit overclocking and power was never an issue.

The AX1200 after a year of heavy use is still flawless. The AX850 I sold.

[dopedpanda]

Weird you feel that enermax is a crappy psu... I have used their 1050watt before and i was more than happy with it... Can´t say the same about corsair aka coilwhine...

Now im into bequiet p8 1200watt, but don´t think its sold anymore (they make the p9 now, but think its only up to 700-800 watt if i remember right)

EDIT:
And just to throw another ball in the air, its not very uncommon that you se the same psu´s have very different voltages across the rails.... My old hx520 (another coilwhiner) was closer to 14 volt at 50% usage (standby at that time mostly) and that was not something i was very happy about....

[just a noob]

If you plan to sleeve a PSU, don't bother with the new fully modular enermax units, double and triple wires errywhere!

[dopedpanda]

If you plan to sleeve a PSU, don't bother with the new fully modular enermax units, double and triple wires errywhere!

Lol its easy as cake (as easy as a psu sleeving job ins gonna get anyways) if you feel thats a challenge you gotta remember that sleeving is modding... And modding isn´t modding anymore now a days to most users.... they think modding is buying all sorts of different fans, tubes, pump tops, drivebays and then you are a hardcore modder... Sleeving is a hell of a job, and was even more so before modular was even the retails....

So don´t tell me it can´t be done or its hard :htfu:

[just a noob]

Lol its easy as cake (as easy as a psu sleeving job ins gonna get anyways) if you feel thats a challenge you gotta remember that sleeving is modding... And modding isn´t modding anymore now a days to most users.... they think modding is buying all sorts of different fans, tubes, pump tops, drivebays and then you are a hardcore modder... Sleeving is a hell of a job, and was even more so before modular was even the retails....

So don´t tell me it can´t be done or its hard :htfu:

It's just a pain in the ass, especially when you can get a silverstone strider without shit like that.

[dopedpanda]

It's just a pain in the ass, especially when you can get a silverstone strider without shit like that.

Why mod even mod then? 99% of the mod is about doing what wasn´t possible before.... same as buying those cheap ass extension wires and cover all the others away = hardcore modder FTW L33T XS FORUM MEMBER 4LIFE

A mod is only something special if its a challenge.... And how long does it take to sleeve a whole psu? I have done maybe 10-15 psu´s while being a perfectionist and it takes about 8 hours for all cables that comes with a psu... A little shorter if you look away from all those Sata/molex cables...

[mataribot]

To be honest, I am being fucking lazy. I don't feel like taking apart the PSU housing in order properly sleeve the PSU. Most of the 100% modular PSU are easier to sleeve (not all). In the past, I have been a fanboy of Enermax PSUs, but their new overpriced models have not performed as well as the competition (Corsair and Seasonic are two examples).

Correct me if I am wrong, the issue with "tripping" has been fixed with most PSU (designed and manufactured) post 2005. So, the single rail seems more like a marketing gimmick than anything else. Also, didn't some well known tester fry his test equipment while testing a Corsair AX? Wouldn't that more than likely not to have occurred if the PSU had several rails?

[jacobroufa]

OklahomaWolf just reviewed Seasonic's Platinum 1000w and claims it has the best regulation of any power supply he's ever seen. I'm definitely considering that as my next PSU.

Review here : http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=264

[mataribot]

Jac, he is not the only one to claim that.

[Floyd]

Chalk one more vote for the Corsair PSU. I have 3 of them of various wattages and they all work great.

[ablatman]

Blah blah blah, you're not 'hardcore' blah blah blah blah modders today are all bitches/pussies blah blah blah blah...


You kids with your high and mighty attitude need to stay off my damned lawn.



Modding isn't about spending hundreds/thousands of man-hours customizing something; it's about taking hardware and bending it to your will in a way you find artistically/aesthetically pleasing. While you can generally get the same end result with a variety of different hardware, the amount of work to get that result can vary. All other factors being equal, WHY THE FUCK would someone go out of their way to make more work for themselves? Are you a Democrat or something?

[mataribot]

That's the same attitude you find most mmo's; people get pisses if takes you 10 hours to get an item or whatever, while it takes most people well hour 100 hours.

[ablatman]

That's the same attitude you find most mmo's; people get pisses if takes you 10 hours to get an item or whatever, while it takes most people well hour 100 hours.

And? Life isn't an MMO. Life is real, life is hard, and life is NOT fair. To embrace this, and to strive to get the most benefit from the least effort is fundamentally American.

That said, there is a difference between laziness and sloth, just as there is a difference between greed and rapacity.

[dopedpanda]

You kids with your high and mighty attitude need to stay off my damned lawn.



Modding isn't about spending hundreds/thousands of man-hours customizing something; it's about taking hardware and bending it to your will in a way you find artistically/aesthetically pleasing. While you can generally get the same end result with a variety of different hardware, the amount of work to get that result can vary. All other factors being equal, WHY THE FUCK would someone go out of their way to make more work for themselves? Are you a Democrat or something?

Why would someone make a bad pick over a good one cause they are afraid of 2 wires instead of 1? Think about that for a moment and call me kid/Democrat again :htfu:

Nobody is talking about doing more work for yourself, im saying why be afraid to spend an hour or 2 extra and open op for a whole lot of others psu´s? Why even pay to have a 100% modular psu? What system have you ever used that didn´t use the 24/20 pin atx? ;)

[dopedpanda]

That's the same attitude you find most mmo's; people get pisses if takes you 10 hours to get an item or whatever, while it takes most people well hour 100 hours.

Not really seeing where you are going thinking you are an orc and just pulled off a magic item?

And i thought i was :coke:

[ablatman]

Why would someone make a bad pick over a good one cause they are afraid of 2 wires instead of 1? Think about that for a moment and call me kid/Democrat again :htfu:

Nobody is talking about doing more work for yourself, im saying why be afraid to spend an hour or 2 extra and open op for a whole lot of others psu´s? Why even pay to have a 100% modular psu? What system have you ever used that didn´t use the 24/20 pin atx? ;)

Again, you don't seem to understand what I'm saying; let's go through this bit by bit to clear it up.

"Nobody is talking about doing more work for yourself, im saying why be afraid to spend an hour or 2"

I hate to break it to you, but something that takes more time to do must therefore require more work. If I have a choice between two nearly identical power supplies that differ only in the amount of time it would take to modify them as I plan to, WHY THE FUCK WOULD I CHOOSE THE ONE THAT REQUIRES MORE WORK? That's like saying that public works projects should not utilize heavy equipment and should instead require people to dig with spoons.

Silverstone PSUs are generally at least as good as Enermax PSUs, so why would someone seeking to mono-sleeve a PSU DELIBERATELY choose one that requires more work to mono-sleeve? Again, all quality and aesthetic factors being equal, why make a choice that will necessitate more work?

As for 100% modular power supplies, they make it possible to modify the wiring harness without opening the case of the PSU and thus voiding the warranty. Keeping in mind that the PSU is the single most important component in the PC, I'd rather NOT crack the factory seal on one if it can be avoided. Again, they exist because it is what the market demands -- they're easier for the owner to bend to his own will without voiding the warranty.


In short, your position reeks of ivory-tower syndrome, which is endemic among modern leftists. Thus my question as to whether you are a Democrat.

[mataribot]

100% modular PSUs are just easier for me to sleeve. No need to mark every wire or draw diagrams. Besides, with a four year old, I don't want to have a PSU open. I called myself lazy in that regard. Safe, easy, and effective.

On to my other point; supposedly, the SeaSonic Platinum-1000 is new king. I was just trying to confirm.