CoolerMaster - Turbine Master MACH 1.8

[RedRaider]

Anyone have any thoughts on these fans? Good, bad or otherwise...

Turbine Master MACH1.8 (http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6691)



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[xmanrigger]

Just seen them with your post. Hope someone here gets some and reviews them soon. They would fit right into my present build. Totally customizable! Well, almost. Custom paint looks pretty painless.

Now that I look at the hub, very similar to the Noctua 140mm fans I just got. Same breed maybe?

[FaRKle!]

All I have to say is that it's CoolerMaster... expect inflated performance values. CM fans are pretty mediocre.

What application are you looking to use fans for?

[xmanrigger]

All I have to say is that it's CoolerMaster... expect inflated performance values. CM fans are pretty mediocre.

What application are you looking to use fans for?

I plan to use them maybe for exhaust up top. I bought Noctua fans, but colour scheme clashed, and a PIA to paint.

[FaRKle!]

I plan to use them maybe for exhaust up top. I bought Noctua fans, but colour scheme clashed, and a PIA to paint.

Enermax fans also have a removable blade assembly if you want something more robust and with more accurate specs. They are a bit pricey for what you get though.

In all honesty I don't really think taking apart fans is all that difficult though (just don't get a hydro-wave bearing fan, you can't take those apart). Generally all you do is peel off the sticker, remove the cap over the shaft/bearing assembly (if there is a cap over it), pop off the c-clip, and then pull the blade assembly off.

[cpufrost]

Appears to me that it was designed on appearance and actual performance thoughts came up dead last.

[B NEGATIVE]

They are loud compared to Gentle typhoons....they look good tho.
80.3 CFM ± 10% if this is correct,it shifts some air!

[cpufrost]

They are loud compared to Gentle typhoons....they look good tho.
80.3 CFM ± 10% if this is correct,it shifts some air!

That would definitely be a free air rating and goes quickly down from there with any kind of restriction. Even a grille will cause chaos with them.

Gentle Typhoons are the pinnacle design that everything else will be judged against for a long time...

[B NEGATIVE]

Appears to me that it was designed on appearance and actual performance thoughts came up dead last.

whats your basis for this comment? you got one?

[cpufrost]

whats your basis for this comment? you got one?

Nope, the design is based on appearance rather than performance. If anyone wants to test this to prove me wrong I'll certainly eat my words. I'm definitely not going to buy one to find out! :D

[B NEGATIVE]

How the fuck can you say its based on appearance? it pumps out nearly 30 Cfm more than the equivalent GT. BTW all fan rating are free air.
Maybe not a Rad fan but a shit hot case fan

[cpufrost]

How the fuck can you say its based on appearance? it pumps out nearly 30 Cfm more than the equivalent GT. BTW all fan rating are free air.
Maybe not a Rad fan but a shit hot case fan

Who verified these specs?
Many specs are claimed but not validated. It takes expensive equipment to do this. Check the price of a Alnor Balometer w/hood once!

There are other fans with the same exact blade/hub design and they fail quite badly. That's all I'm saying.

Lifetime is the biggest inflated figure. Many, many fans (not just the OP example) fail FAR before their claimed MTBF. One has to wonder if the mfr is just pulling a "good looking" number from a hat as well...

Also one has to consider the subjectivity of operating noise. A dB figure is never enough. The noise generated will always be different.

Just as there are cheap ass (Behringer) amps that seem impressive on paper I would not trust them to touring duty as a more trusted company such as Digam or Crest. Then again look at the difference in price!

Lots of times price alone is the decision maker upon purchase and in the long run a bad decision is often more costly.

[B NEGATIVE]

all of what your saying is supposition,not hard facts.
Until there are better numbers,i will go with what the mfr says.

[B NEGATIVE]

to be fair,i wouldnt buy a CM fan anyway.....

[FaRKle!]

B Negative:

CM has a long history of inflating their fan's performance numbers. The R4 series of fans is a great example, in the beginning they were advertised as 2000rpm fans that pushed 90CFM at only 19dBA. We all know that's bullshit, and independent testers called CM on their bullshit. Now they're more accurately rated at 69CFM. Big difference there. CM still rates them at 19dBA, which is still total bullshit (they're louder than 1850rpm GT's).

The reason you can't trust any non-OEM fan brand is because there's no official standardized way of testing fans (how far away is the SPL meter placed from the fan, what angle from the fan is it placed at, how is the fan airflow hooked up to the anemometer?). You can however trust OEM's because since they're making fans for industrial use those specs HAVE to be accurate. Also their fans are built much stronger.

When buying new fans I only look at NMB-MAT, San Ace, Nidec Servo, or Delta.

[B NEGATIVE]

I agree on your fan selections,my argument is that this fan was dismissed out of hand WITHOUT testing which is crap.
You can see in my first post that i said if the numbers were correct it was good, i know they inflate their claims.

[cpufrost]

Fans second to perhaps video cards, are probably the most subjective things one can put in their pc. (unless they are deaf!)

Just going by numbers alone is like shopping for loudspeakers by reading the specs only. (that's what Bose is for btw!) And yes prematurely dismissing it without actually testing/auditioning it may also be not in everyone's interest but I'm 99% sure I would be underwhelmed if I bought one. (and yet have something else sitting on the shelf waiting for that one day...which is a topic for another discussion!)

CM just repackages other's stuff anyway. There are a few CM fans that aren't bad and when they go on sale at my local MC I pick a few up.

Delta, Panasonic (panaflow), NMB, Nidec, San Ace, Pabst, Comair (Rotron), etc. are usually the higher spec'd brands out there. There are a few other more specialized products and their prices reflect it. Some OEMs such as Adda and Sunon make decent ones as well.

That CM fan looks a lot like a popular fan with its hub shape and "turbine motor" appearance. While it may look better than a boring (but very functional) fan, sometimes you have to put practicality over looks. (haha! I said it!) :p

Some of these fans also have rather nasty acoustic profiles. (again being subjective here) What some people think is icing on the cake others believe is monkey shit! (just sayin')

[B NEGATIVE]

im not worried about looks when it comes to fans,purely function over form for me...
not sure why they went for the one sided design tho......seems ridiculous if they are marketing it as a HS fan when most are running push-pull setups.
i wonder if that cut back shroud has that much effect on noise?

[FaRKle!]

i wonder if that cut back shroud has that much effect on noise?

If it did I'm positive San Ace/NMB/Nidec/Delta/Sunon would've picked up on it by now.

For silence to airflow in 120x120x25mm format you just can't beat the Gentle Typhoon and San Ace 9S series.