Project: AtomSmasher

[ballz0r]

man.... always the hardest part of this is thinking of a cool name.... so if anyone has any suggestions let me know :)

I'm making a small gaming computer... ive tried to balance size with power to make the smallest computer possible which will still play todays games with "all the goodies" so to speak :), this will eventually be hooked up to my RealReseraTor... probably gona need to make up some custom blocks :)

so for the Mobo im thinking mini-ITX 2.0 which as far as I can tell is the smallest you can get while still having PCIe x16

Ive narrowed it down to the zotac 9300-ITX WiFi (http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=9300-ITX+wifi&btnG=Google+Search&meta=)

ok, so ill need the most powerful single video card available... no brainer here its the GTX295....

keeping with the theme im thinking of the Zotac 295

the rest:

- 1 x Zotac Nitro
- 1 x SSD >100Gb (possibly more for raid if space permits)
- 2 x 2Gb DDR2 1066
- Q9550 E0 stepping

if anyone has any other hardware related suggestions please let me know now... im gona order next week as soon as i can find a reseller for the mobo.

I havent decided on a case but id like to be able to fit it all into an lc09 (http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/p_contents.php?pno=lc09&area=)

at the moment im thinking of mounting the 295 open with a custom waterblock.... im toying with the idea of making a full cover mobo block with the 295 on the other side connected by a PCIe extender cable.


man this is gona be fun :)

EDIT

I thought the name Blade was a bit :jackoff: so I changed it to Atom Smasher, fitting for such a powerful SFF Pc :)

[rubidium]

man this is gona be fun :)

Indeed. :up: I'm certainly going to be following this build. With most watercooling activity at the sprawling big-case end of the spectrum (myself included), having the opposite end as a design goal is a refreshing challenge. This is a great opportunity to be truly innovative with an effective cooling system that truly has a minimum footprint. I'll also be very interested with how you handle a "remote" PCIe card.

Let us know how we can help.:)

rubidium

[ballz0r]

well i tracked down the processor on the weekend.... its currently stable at 3.825 on my S2E. I should be able to reach my 4Ghz goal.

I just realised that I should be able to dedicate the 9300 for physx although ive never played round with this before.

I just need to find the board now.... so if anyone has any ideas let me know plz :)

[ND40oz]

Isn't this it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500022

Looks like it comes with wifi.

[ballz0r]

The 9300-ITX WiFi has on board wireless G

[ballz0r]

i just saw this in the spec:

Features Integrated Wifi
Compatibility 802.11b/g

but i cant see the aerial ???

[ballz0r]

aaaah i see... theres a usb WIFI add on

thanks mate!!!

[ballz0r]

OK my newegg cart is ready to go... just need someone with an address in the US.

No Zotac GTX295 at the egg :down:

Final Parts List:

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
Sony Optiarc Slim 8X Slot Loading DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7670S-01
ZOTAC GF9300-D-E Mini ITX Intel Motherboard
1G.SKILL TITAN Series FM-25S2S-256GBT1 2.5" Internal Solid state disk (SSD)
Patriot Xporter Magnum 64GB Flash Drive (USB2.0 Portable)

[ballz0r]

well i pushed the button on the 295 and nitro today, so its point of no return :)

found a supplier for the 9300-itx as well and they are seeing if they can get the rest of the bits i need.

next post will be the obligatory pile of parts before test setup on air :)

[smee]

Wow man will be watching this closely!

YOU STOLE MY IDEA FUTHER MUCKING BAST........ oh ahaha... just kidding.
Lol I was planning to do this kind of a build eventually. :P

Best of luck!

BTW, I'm interested in that Sony Optiarc slot loading drive... was thinking of picking it up myself, when you get it can you kinda just give a brief review on it? Like if it's reasonably fast, loud or quiet, works good or not, flimsy or solid... etc...

That'd be great man cuz i need a good slot loading drive and i absolutely LOVE the fact that I don't have to get a slim IDE to SATA conversion thingy....

[ballz0r]

well most of the parts are on the way... Baleful is helping me out with my NewEgg order (what a legend!)

after a bit of research it seems that the idea I had for using the onboard 9300 for physx will work well

http://www.guru3d.com/article/physx-by-nvidia-review/4


From the looks of that it should provide a 20-30% boost to frame rates!!! :)


cant wait to try it out :coolup:

[MomijiTMO]

Wow what an awesome tiny pc in the making.

[ballz0r]

:welcome: to RRT Momijitmo

[ballz0r]

Look what the postman brought today :D
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/Sbpx7ZnbuGI/AAAAAAAABtA/dlJHc0A4dno/s800/DSC04140.JPG

While I wait for the rest of the bits i had a play with my new gear

First run, plug and play... multi GPU and physics were enabled by default...

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SbpxKylZXiI/AAAAAAAABsY/SiJvQHHjph4/s800/296%20Stock%20Physics%20295.jpg

nice numbers for a single card on stock settings. Beats my 3 way 8800s already :up:





Disabling Physx did this

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SbpxNBpBhWI/AAAAAAAABsc/SEjYW9vMCIg/s800/295%20Stock%20Physx%20off.jpg

Not so nice, but to be expected :down:


Next I thought Id try an 8500 GS for dedicated Physx

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SbpxPJ3zY-I/AAAAAAAABsg/vZ-Qnub7x_0/s800/295%20Stock%20Physx%208400%20GS.jpg

Crap





How about a 8600 GT?

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SbpxTH9-NtI/AAAAAAAABsk/-gM7w6EZveU/s800/295%20Stock%20Physx%208600%20GT.jpg

double crap!



hmmm, the reviews said multi card physx worked best with GPUs of the same series... So it looks like my idea to use the on board 9300 for Physx isnt gona work.

oh well.... this could end up being a sweet htpc :)

[ballz0r]

Sticking to the original settings (multi gpu and physx enables) its time to see what this Nitro unit can do for me.

A few runs got me to here:

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SbqHEzDUVEI/AAAAAAAABtc/GqQHT4Xu5uM/s800/DSC04150.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SbqHHPmXJLI/AAAAAAAABtg/Hy6yxCAucSs/s800/295%20651%202203%201402.jpg

the card was barely breaking a sweat with temps at 60C max, so i went higher...

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SbqHtrhB9oI/AAAAAAAABtk/DpUqwTHmnCM/s800/DSC04152.JPG

[smee]

Very nice man! Can't wait for the rest of the system . :)

oh lol i see BSOD in background... :P

[ballz0r]

pushed it a bit further....

Core 696 memory 1159 shader 1432

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SbtZR6_9hoI/AAAAAAAABuc/dOZusZITUFY/s800/Test%20295%20696%201159%201432.jpg
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SbtZJnkFhXI/AAAAAAAABuY/1jpeyWN3jeY/s800/295%20696%201159%201432.jpg

still wont go over 700 core tho and with the fans at max temps are only up round 70... hopefullt when i get it under water i'll be able to break the 700 barrier, but for now im pretty pleased with the card

[ballz0r]

I found a rivatuner plugin which lets you up the voltage on your graphics card which let me bust thru the 700 mhz core barrier tonight :woot:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/Sb0RforluoI/AAAAAAAABvQ/jMu8t7TjwmM/s800/RivaTunerVolt.jpg


Core 720 Memory 1200 Shader 1440

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/Sb0Rifv6sqI/AAAAAAAABvU/BsX5pqbkNYc/s800/295%20720%201200%201440.jpg

I dont think ill try pushing it much further till its under water

back to the waiting game

[ballz0r]

back to the waiting game

the waiting game sux ass :D


Core 735, memory 1250, Shader 1470

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/Sb2ptnbmqDI/AAAAAAAABwM/AZrp_iTD2kM/s800/P24723%20295%20735%201250%201470.jpg

this card is a fucking beast! that 3dmark is better than the 4870 X2..... in crossfire!!! :D eat that red team

[Kayin]

I'll be bringing a reply to that shortly.

[ballz0r]

the 9300-ITX just arrived

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/Scb9kSAxs-I/AAAAAAAABzU/eCw2oGHSskc/s800/IMAG0010.jpg

man thats small

[smee]

Holy crap that is small.

[ballz0r]

sorry about the crap photos.... I was pretty excited to show you guys.
Ill take some better ones tonight

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SccFKXxusrI/AAAAAAAABzw/o5_SnGXiHZY/s800/IMAG0011.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SccFVeY68AI/AAAAAAAABz4/qszcwqxuPwM/s800/IMAG0012.jpg

im gona need a shorter riser card

[ballz0r]

some nicer shots...

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SccRQtgf8tI/AAAAAAAAB0U/0p7wmGH4Uno/s800/IMAG0014.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SccRcgBWYcI/AAAAAAAAB00/bRx3ZbqbRbo/s800/IMAG0015.jpg

you can see what I mean when I say thin now :D

gona run it in on air until its all working then convert it over to water and a custom case once all the bits get here.

[Septim]

nice parts... almost fits in a shoe box...

[ballz0r]

i figured id put my QX9650 in it.... I have a feeling the problems with my phase change unit are going to delay my upgrade to overkill for a while.

it fired up without a hitch, windoez is installing now.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/Scdq_UKTuVI/AAAAAAAAB2A/HTBgbMGbOdI/s800/itsalive.jpg

its running on temporary ram, HDD and ODD until parts arrive

[Septim]

you gonna crunch with it too "temporarily" until the right parts arrive...
at least stress test that tiny mobo, hehe...

[ballz0r]

sure will.... I think this will put me above baleful on the daily stats :D

[just a noob]

this thing is stupid awesome :D

[ballz0r]

lol yeah... the smallest socket 775 board teamed up with the biggest graphics card and a quad core extreme.... I just had to :)

im running 3dmark on it now... not looking too good.

[Kayin]

Bit's review of the board was pretty good, and it does support overclocking, as I recall...

Tweak her till she smokes and back her down a notch.

[ballz0r]

Bit's review of the board was pretty good, and it does support overclocking, as I recall...

Tweak her till she smokes and back her down a notch.


Thats the idea kayin... I was looking at the bios settings, it seems like the overclocking potential is there... gona need to get it wet before pushing it too far tho.

Ive got heatkiller CPU and GPU blocks coming, but i think ill need a custom block for the onboard gpu.

Here is my first 3DMark Vantage Run on stock settings.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/Sces_23YyhI/AAAAAAAAB2c/viy-WrksdUU/s800/9300-ITX%20Stock.jpg


For comparison, this is what I got with an 8600 GT on Physx
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SbpxTH9-NtI/AAAAAAAABsk/-gM7w6EZveU/s800/295%20Stock%20Physx%208600%20GT.jpg


Looks like ive got a lot of work to do.

[Kayin]

Go read the Bit review, they show the board naked. You really just need a regular block with funky mounting. There's only one chip under there.

You've got limited options in some areas, but if that's a QX then just use the multi for the lion's share, making sure the PWM stays cooled off...

[ballz0r]

yeah theres something weird going on... check out the difference between the CPU scores.

ima update the drivers and rerun it

[just a noob]

i still love the fact that the gpu is almost twice as long as the mobo :P

[ballz0r]

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/Scjjv7Fi52I/AAAAAAAAB3U/U-dUaRne57Y/s800/9300-ITX%20Stock.jpg

updating to the latest drivers made a big difference.

Im only running on 1 1gb stick of DDR2 800 atm so dual channel and a bit more dedicated to the gpu should boost this a bit more, then overclocking.

time to start bugging joel for those heatkiller gpu blocks :D

[Septim]

nice results, good board and partners...

[ballz0r]

woah I just noticed the numbers on CPU test 2 which is physx... 113!!!... my 295 scored about 150... I had to rerun it this morning to double check and it confirmed the result.

I have a feeling this combo is going to kick some serious ass!

[ballz0r]

I cranked up the 295 to 731/1204 and broke 20k! and the CPU up to 3GHz

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/Sclh_zL1zyI/AAAAAAAAB3w/r5KWOtt0Duk/s800/9300-ITX%20Stock%20295%20at%20731-1204-1492.jpg


GPU score is still down on what I was getting at the same speeds on my S2E... I think Ill try it without the riser card.


LOL... I just submitted my results to ORB
"Unfortunately the ORB only contains 2 similar system configurations which is an insufficiant amount to prepare a comparison graph"

[ballz0r]

Well the last of the hardware arrived today

1 x 128Gb G.Skill Titan SSD
2 x 2Gb G.Skill DDR2 1066 5-5-5-15
1 x Sony Slim Slot Loading DVD burner
1 x USB thumb drive (gona build it in and use it for booting to dos for flashing, drive imaging etc)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/Scmu-EEwepI/AAAAAAAAB30/ZPHrCA3C4Sk/s800/DSC04191.JPG

Big Thanks to Baleful for getting this stuff from newegg for me and posting it over.
:htk:

What a fucking champion!!

[ballz0r]

Man this SSD hammers

~30s from power on to windows desktop!

Everest HDD Benchmark Linear Read 165MB/s!

(The old samsung sata lappy drive that was in there was 38-51MB/s)

[Baleful]

Lookin good bud. Always glad to help a friend.

[ballz0r]

well ive got the new gear hooked up and running smoothely, except for the DVD drive which i need a slim sata converter cable for.

that 20k run must have been borked... It must have been running physx on the 295 even though the nvidia control panel said it was running on the 9300. My latest test has my marks back down to 15k with a score of 30 on CPU test 2 :(

[Odin Eidolon]

Well the last of the hardware arrived today

1 x 128mb G.Skill Titan SSD
2 x 2mb G.Skill DDR2 1066 5-5-5-15
1 x Sony Slim Slot Loading DVD burner
1 x USB thumb drive (gona build it in and use it for booting to dos for flashing, drive imaging etc)
<snip>

oh well thats some old ram :D:D:D

the project seems great, subsd!

[ballz0r]

lol

oh I forgot to list the maths co-processor too :)

[ballz0r]

another piece of the puzzle arrived today

a flexible PCI Express x16 riser
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SdCpMH3H4FI/AAAAAAAAB-4/tC1pcP0VIsc/s800/DSC04232.JPG

it could be a little shorter but itll do the trick
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SdCpuNs-34I/AAAAAAAAB_A/qQFdZZCKh0w/s800/DSC04243.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SdCor4MzNQI/AAAAAAAAB-s/daYjDE8wqVo/s800/DSC04239.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SdCpSXuGfpI/AAAAAAAAB-8/MJteDhkKq3M/s800/DSC04242.JPG

[Mankz]

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2374/80a20673dee3b525cb1a943.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=80a20673dee3b525cb1a943.jpg)

[THP Dan]

that is some nice hardware.
what is the overall size of the whole thing?

[ballz0r]

sorry for the lack of updates... the HK gear is getting close now

as for overall size... im going for about 300x300x60

gota figure out how to cram the psu in there tho.

[knightmaric]

Ballz0r this is awsome =D
I wanted to do something similar but the stuff you've thrown in that thing is immense =D
Got a case in mind yet :P

[ballz0r]

Ballz0r this is awsome =D
I wanted to do something similar but the stuff you've thrown in that thing is immense =D
Got a case in mind yet :P


cheers mate :up:

im gona make up a custom case using uv blue acrylic.

[knightmaric]

I'm liking the sound of that a lot!

Any specific size for it in mind yet?
God i'm nosey :P

[ballz0r]

I'm liking the sound of that a lot!

Any specific size for it in mind yet?
God i'm nosey :P


im trying tp squeeze everything into a 300x300x50mm envelope

[knightmaric]

And you expect to fit WCing in that eventually?
O_O

[Phobia]

I never knew they made pci-e adapters. thats awsome. Can't wait to see the end product.. thats tiny!

[ballz0r]

And you expect to fit WCing in that eventually?
O_O


ofcourse :)

ive got HK CPU and GPU blocks coming for it, im gona have to make up something for the NB tho.

[Langer]

Have you decided on a case design for this yet mate?
I recall us discussing it a while back - I'm curious if you've made any headway there.

[dingdong555]

Awesome work man!

How come you got some parts from the US like the SDD/Ram/DVD drive? Wouldn't they be cheaper here once you go from USD > AUD + shipping?

Keep it up!

[disturbed13]

holy buttfuck batman
i need a new keyboard
too much drool for my shopvac

[cheezeit]

wow nice parts dude!

[elite.ire]

loving this project :D, the matx board looks awesome...

[ballz0r]

Awesome work man!

How come you got some parts from the US like the SDD/Ram/DVD drive? Wouldn't they be cheaper here once you go from USD > AUD + shipping?

Keep it up!

couldnt get the SSD or DVD drives in Oz, so I figured id get the ram at the same time.

I just ordered the NB block

heres a hint

Vielen Dank für Ihren Einkauf. :up:

[ILikeCosmosS]

is there going to be a case?

[ballz0r]

Have you decided on a case design for this yet mate?
I recall us discussing it a while back - I'm curious if you've made any headway there.

I just returned from sydney with 4 1200x660mm sheets of 6mm thick uv reactive blue acrylic sheet

its similar to the stuff sold by acryan (http://www.acryan.com/index.php?option=com_acryan_product&product_item=132&parent_id=29&Itemid=87), but thicker

I should be able to make something outa that :)

[ILikeCosmosS]

ballz0r if i were to follow you with the same design could just make a really low profile box?

[hausner]

looking good bro

[Septim]

it would depend on the size of your equipment goin in... clearance issues and allowances...

[ballz0r]

ballz0r if i were to follow you with the same design could just make a really low profile box?

yeah thats the idea.... im aiming at keeping it to the thickness of an I/O shield

PSU is proving difficult tho :/

[Worthy]

Yeah, you really have your work cut out for you.
The video card alone is the thickness of an i/o shield.

[ballz0r]

Yeah, you really have your work cut out for you.
The video card alone is the thickness of an i/o shield.


If I take the 120mm fan outa my psu itll cut down the thickness to about 60mm... id have to install some smaller fans for cross ventilation or watercool it like link's watercooled psu

[Worthy]

I like the watercooled PSU idea.
I wonder how tough a watercooled PSU is being added to the typical watercooled system. Especially one this compact.

That's what makes it such a challenge.

[ILikeCosmosS]

how about the silverstone fanless psu's ?
are you watercooling or not?
get a slim cd drive + use the motherboard tray to mount your HDD vertically

[ballz0r]

I caved and bought a PC-C37 Muse (http://www.lian-li.com/v2/tw/flashpage/c37/) today... not as thin as I would have liked but it will let me keep everything inside the case and should be a lot less fuss.

it fits the bill perfectly, right down to the horizontal pci slots

im planning on stealthing the DVD drive down one edge of a fan controler mounted in the standard DVD Drive bay

[Worthy]

Nice! That should make life a lot easier.

[ILikeCosmosS]

the new thermaltake luxa line of cases are pimp they even send you a remote and a nice lcd screen along with it
thats my dream HTPC

[ballz0r]

ahh crap... as soon as i fork out the cash for a case i find one just like i had imagined

http://www.auzentech.com/site/images/gmc/S7black_front.jpg (http://www.auzentech.com/site/products/gmc_s7.php)

fuck it

[Septim]

ooo... i am seeing fraternal twins in the making...

[trfnj74]

ballz0r
That is one nice looking case...Has the other case been shipped yet if not can you stop the shipment and cancel the order? I the like the second case better then the first it sleeker looking.

[ballz0r]

yeah its shipped..... i think ive just found a good birthday present for my dad :)

[ballz0r]

oooh.... i just bought one of these too

http://www.addonics.com/products/io/adsssau2.asp

hooking the ODD into the usb will let me run another SSD in raid 0 :)

[trfnj74]

I do the same thing when I order something and something better comes out at the same time....It all goes to my brother hes lucky to have me he just got about $250 worth of bitspower fittings...

[ballz0r]

I caved and bought the case :)

Your order has been updated to the following status:
New status: Shipped


OK Final Parts List:

Hardware:
Mobo - Zotac 9300-ITX
CPU - Q9550 E0
GPU - Zotac GTX295
HDD - 2 x G.Skill Titan SSD in Raid 0
ODD - Sony Slim Slot Loading DVD Burner with SATA to USB Converter
Case - Auzentech AVC S7 (2.6 inches thick!)
PSU - Zalman 750W.... gota somehow mod it to be skinny
Keyboard and mouse are Logitech MX5500 wireless duo


Watercooling:
HK 3.0 CPU Block
HK NB Rev2.1 2-Ösen
HK GPU-X² 295
MIPS Ramfreezer 2

Im going to assemble it all before deciding if i go with an external radbox or try to integrate something.

Back to the waiting game

[knightmaric]

I am so jealous right now >_>
lol

Can't wait for this dude =D

[ballz0r]

the case arrived

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SfcCV10P9aI/AAAAAAAACFA/8R7f09KJhYY/s800/DSC04275.JPG

little write up on it here (http://www.realredraider.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=7256)

[Floyd]

Thats a tiny little box isnt it.

[ballz0r]

Thats a tiny little box isnt it.

sure is.... and its horizontal instead of the conventional vertical box

[Oli4v]

uh wich box, can't see a box? :P

I think I just see your wife, she's goodlookin' :P

-only kidding, offcourse I see the tiny case ;)

[ballz0r]

what case?

and u just made my g/f very happy :D

[ballz0r]

it fits!!!!


http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SfdHdC7WfmI/AAAAAAAACGw/FXRQf0XweVw/s800/DSC04293.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SfdITbBBJFI/AAAAAAAACHs/dgXw6CBUKQw/s800/DSC04297.JPG

[Worthy]

wow lol

[Floyd]

Nice looking. Seems the CPU HSF is a little big though.

BTW tell your girl shes alright by me ;)

[ballz0r]

lol yeah... thats being replaced with a heatkiller 3.0

[Baleful]

BTW tell your girl shes alright by me ;)

Haha, I second that.

On topic, what PSU are you gonna use in there, or have you mentioned this already and I just need to read more carefully? :D

[Oli4v]

tight fit :P

nice, I was thinking, this needs to be watercooled ! :)

[ballz0r]

Haha, I second that.

On topic, what PSU are you gonna use in there, or have you mentioned this already and I just need to read more carefully? :D


yeah thats the tough part.... the biggest matx psu ive seen is 400w, and none of them have pcie 6+8.

one option is a vga psu (http://www.sirtec.com/?id=vga400) but it will take up all my watercooling realestate.

another option is to install another matx psu piggy backing the main one installed down where the removable hdd bracket is.

3rd is to strip down a standard atx psu and build it in.



im open to ideas in this area if anyone can think of one

[nicky.82uk]

it fits!!!!


http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SfdHdC7WfmI/AAAAAAAACGw/FXRQf0XweVw/s800/DSC04293.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SfdITbBBJFI/AAAAAAAACHs/dgXw6CBUKQw/s800/DSC04297.JPG


nice i like it alot does the asian girl come with it :D lol

[Baleful]

3rd is to strip down a standard atx psu and build it in.

I like option 3. Several PSU's I've opened up have a lot of room in there for heat transfer.

[ballz0r]

yeah I have a zalman 750w which has a 140mm fan in the top, taking this out and replacing it with a cross ventilation fan would get it down to the required height

[Baleful]

yeah I have a zalman 750w which has a 140mm fan in the top, taking this out and replacing it with a cross ventilation fan would get it down to the required height

Exactly, I don't know how hard it would be to get a custom housing fabricated for a PSU, but I think that's definitely the route to go.

[ballz0r]

Exactly, I don't know how hard it would be to get a custom housing fabricated for a PSU, but I think that's definitely the route to go.
I was thinking modders mesh

[nicky.82uk]

yea that should do the trick

[ballz0r]

well i guess this is what they call the point of no return :) This use to be my Zalman 750W PSU :)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SfiI_R5PRrI/AAAAAAAACJg/Lt6TgPmJg_U/s800/DSC04305.JPG

Stripped down its even smaller than the 230w SFX psu! So why doesnt any motherfucker make one?

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SfiIfv8Pt7I/AAAAAAAACI8/v7HU_WZI5Yw/s800/DSC04310.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SfiIvZZX1ZI/AAAAAAAACJE/7onPrbjDnIg/s800/DSC04308.JPG

I'm dreading having to tidy up all these wires... Ive never been inclined to individually sleeve my PSU cables, but it looks like im in for it now :)
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SfiIPqGc5QI/AAAAAAAACIg/ylId5kOciD8/s800/DSC04317.JPG

[Baleful]

Hell yeah! Love it man, absolutely love it. I'm guessing no one makes a "slim line" version of this because of the heat.

[ballz0r]

yeah im thinking of running water to the heatsinks somehow to support the cross ventilation fans.

[Baleful]

That wouldn't be a bad idea at all. If you could find some kind of "broad" flat waterblock, you could adhere the block with thermal adhesive.

[Kayin]

Got enough shit in there?

[ballz0r]

Got enough shit in there?

what? theres heaps of space to fill :)

i havent installed the water cooling geear yet :D

[Baleful]

Well, I'm not sure how it would look, but you could get a few of these (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/enwmnpfocomo.html)and and slap on there with some thermal adhesive.

I'm not sure what kind of resources you have available to you, but your best bet is gonna be some custom fabrication.

[Septim]

hmm water cool every part...
custom fabrication of "mosfet" like block should work for you....

[LowBrowser]

I really have no clue, so don't take my word for it or anything, but isn't the case of the PSU an EMI shield?

[Mr_Armageddon]

Nice build. Very creative space management.

[Burnout21]

From what i remember some internal components inside the PSU can be 'live' and heatsinks attached to them are also 'live', so wouldn't attaching a waterblock cause the watercooling to become 'live'.

I think it was an Antec PSU that had 'live' heatsinks, was causing me a problem when i went to WC it back in the day.

[MomijiTMO]

Heat sinks are fine. .. . it's what's normally attached to them that you don't want to get wet and short. . .. ka boom.

[CrixD]

so uhm... Any updates? :P

[Big_Daddy]

From what i remember some internal components inside the PSU can be 'live' and heatsinks attached to them are also 'live', so wouldn't attaching a waterblock cause the watercooling to become 'live'.

I think it was an Antec PSU that had 'live' heatsinks, was causing me a problem when i went to WC it back in the day.

If a heat sink is "live" meaning it's touching a circuit, it's touching ground.

[ballz0r]

Parts are coming together...

Ramfreezer 2 arrived yesterday
Heatkiller 295 block is at sidewinders... im just waiting for the next shipment of ek bay spin res's and some other odds and ends and will get Gary to send it all out this week.

Just found out my Aquaeros are fucked, so will need to buy another couple of them too... :cussing:

one setback... my 295 is fucked... pushed it too hard on air tests trying to figure out this difference in core temps between gpu 1 and 2 (was getting +5c on gpu 2) now GPU 2 doesnt work at all.. I hate RMAs, but better to happen now than when it was under water.

[CrixD]

Suckage mate.

But I am sure the build is going to be pure excellency, when it is done :D

EDIT:

Wait,what? how the heck are you going to fit a spin res in there? :p

[ballz0r]

hehehe... its gona be tight :D

top corner next to the mobo... ek dual ddc just below it

[ballz0r]

If a heat sink is "live" meaning it's touching a circuit, it's touching ground.

its ok... ill get my girlfriend to press the on switch :D

[becandl]

This rig is coming along nicely, good luck!

[Marne]

fuck me running that shit is tight. you drop something in there and your not getting it back lol.

[Phobia]

any updates?

[p0Pe]

yeah im curious too:D

[ballz0r]

im just finalising an order with Sidewinders for this, and 2 other builds so i can save on shipping.

updates soon as the gear lands :up:

[Houghtonator]

Cant wait til this is finished, It's gonna look so pwnage. Hope you get it done Well...

That shit is tight!!

[ballz0r]

long overdue update


AtomSmasher got.... well, smashed... the problem with such a small case is its easy to pick up and throw across the room :) the upside of this is now i have so much hand i dont know what to do with it all... for those of you not in a long term relationship, hand isnt what your thinking.... its the power to do whatever you want :D

So AtomSmasher has been respec'd

New configuration is:

Hardware
Case: Omaura TF5
Mobo: EVGA X58 Micro
CPU: i7 920 D0
GPU: 295 rev B till 300 series then SLI
HDD: Still 2 x gskill 128mb titans in raid 0

Liquid Cooling
Rad: ..... got here today... see below :D
Pump: EK Dual DDC
Res: EK Bay Spin (if it still fits)
Tubing: Tygon 1/4" Black


http://img.techpowerup.org/091030/Capture045.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/091030/Capture046.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/091030/Capture047.jpg

looks like they were made for eachother :D just needs powdercoating

[scraps]

Thats some hott shit right thur Ballz....gonna bolt them down this time?

[Jtrain]

MORA FTMFW!

[Marne]

sick dude. thats gonna cool like a mofo

[Darkvine]

You are one sick man ballzor.....:crack:

[Crow]

... You destroyed the box...

The only good Zotac ITX 9300 build gets wrecked by some Aussie down under... >.>

jk, but WHYY?

[ballz0r]

... You destroyed the box...

The only good Zotac ITX 9300 build gets wrecked by some Aussie down under... >.>

jk, but WHYY?


I didnt throw it dude.... my g/f did... hence the hand

[Crow]

OH.

Ouch.

[ShadowHunter]

DOWANTDOWANTDOWANTDOWANTDOWANTDOWANTDOWANT!!!

Seriously, someone call the wambulance. I just OD'd on overkill :coke:

[ballz0r]

I think im gona need a bigger psu for this now... a 700W wont handle it.

but this is the idea any way.

Take a regular ATX PSU , strip it down and install it bare.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/Suun6dw9tBI/AAAAAAAADQo/3DNq178oK1U/s800/DSC04816.JPG

Ill probably put some modders mesh over it to tidy it up a bit.

Then for cooling I am considering a 140 on the outside of the case like this

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/Suuo27anEbI/AAAAAAAADRE/g_ZbLlWQTGE/s800/DSC04820.JPG

[Septim]

hide in on the back. shroud and vent it back?

[ballz0r]

Mobo arrived today

http://img.techpowerup.org/091112/Capture083.jpg

I think this is gona be good

[ballz0r]

Preliminary layout

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/Svvhg0IJ7KI/AAAAAAAADZM/CCzrAJvh7YY/s800/Project%20Atomsmasher.jpg

[Kuro]

U need a shave mate :up: :rofl: :rofl:


and how many things has your gf broken now?


This is looking something like the ultimate htpc/lan rig

Good luck mate :)

[ballz0r]

Fans!!!

http://img.techpowerup.org/091117/Capture091.jpg


And fresh off the plane today

http://img.techpowerup.org/091117/Capture092.jpg

MORA2 Core courtesy of Binge via our FS/FT section :D

[slpdLoad]

:omg:

:popcorn: :up:

[Greedseed]

epic raddy xD dam nice buildoff :P

[ballz0r]

after running it in on Air for a couple of days, did a bit more fucking round tonight

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SwQDGTwjmDI/AAAAAAAADa8/U6LZ6F0j0_I/s800/DSC04875.JPG

PCI Extender Fits Well

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SwQDM7OIaCI/AAAAAAAADbA/MXr1dMwVVQU/s800/DSC04876.JPG

SlimSATA cable clashes with the ram... need to find a cable with a right angled slimSATA connector.... if such a thing exists

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SwQDRylB8DI/AAAAAAAADbE/SovceKOnwFs/s800/DSC04881.JPG

Running out of room for the PSU.... I think Ill have to loose the card readers

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SwQDemtlb8I/AAAAAAAADbg/wgp5fQE8oUg/s800/DSC04887.JPG

[Crow]

Edit your sig.

[ballz0r]

there you go :D

[Greedseed]

haha nice wifi connection xD

[ballz0r]

I managed to track down a right angled slim SATA connector

http://www.cpuser.com.tw/SATA_Combo_Cable.htm

man these things are hard to find.

[ballz0r]

I managed to track down a right angled slim SATA connector

http://www.cpuser.com.tw/SATA_Combo_Cable.htm

man these things are hard to find.


Just got a reply back from the supplier

0.92c each :woot:

1,000 minimum order quantity :doh:

[Kuro]

You could ask then to send you a one so you can "test/see/review" the quality of their product so decide whether to make the commitment of buying 1000 pieces or not. ;) :D

[Kuro]

KINGWIN SAC-06 90 Degree SATA Data & Power Combo @ MWave Price: $3.98

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch_v3.asp?px=BR&scriteria=AA73920

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/specHR/images/AA73920c.jpghttp://www.mwave.com/mwave/specHR/images/AA73920b.jpghttp://www.mwave.com/mwave/specHR/images/AA73920a.jpg

It might just work :)

:Edit:

I found another one

StarTech.com Right Angle SATA Cable with LP4 Adapter @ www.sayera.com $4.00
https://www.sayera.com/storesite/Products/Overview/?id=M004987614
https://www.sayera.com/prod_images/img_org/CC5/E9A9B5D3F448BB345DF8D5DC349DB.jpg


~I'm also looking into MWave Australia to see if they have one also.

:Edit:

Okay Fck the Aussie one they don't stock it. :bird: you might be able to ask them if they could order/transfer it in for you. :confused:


.

[ballz0r]

SlimSATA is 7+6 pin, these are regular 7+15

[Marne]

couldnt you just hack a sata cable? cut the plstic connector part off and carefully attach to device. should still work

[Kuro]

could you ask cpuser who they sold them to so you could buy it from them?


What about using something like this
Slimline sata to female sata and then use normal sata 90degree connectors
http://www.redmousecomputers.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/265x265/8a02aedcaf38ad3a98187ab0a1dede95/isimages/DHSLSATACDADAP.jpg

[ballz0r]

while i try to figure out what to do with the sata connector, I ordered these for the PCI Express slots :D

http://img.techpowerup.org/091121/Capture095.jpg
http://www.orbitmicro.com/global/pe-flex16r-p-4354.html


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SwgJ8KdvHVI/AAAAAAAADb8/CkA0FCJLN7k/s800/2x%20x16%20extenders.jpg

[Greedseed]

LOOKS SICKS :O

[Crow]

couldnt you just hack a sata cable? cut the plstic connector part off and carefully attach to device. should still work

Yeah, I know there's a guy who modded a regular SATA cable to fit a slimline drive.

[Schlosser]

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SwgJ8KdvHVI/AAAAAAAADb8/CkA0FCJLN7k/s800/2x%20x16%20extenders.jpg

wait, wait, wait. Since when did the one GTX295 mutate into two? :whoa:

That'll be sick! .. and hot :D

[smee]

This is what I was planning on ordering for my slot loading drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812270183

Build looks awesome Ballz!

[ballz0r]

This is what I was planning on ordering for my slot loading drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812270183

Build looks awesome Ballz!

yeah i have one of those, but it clashes with my ram slots... I need a right angled connector

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SwQDRylB8DI/AAAAAAAADbE/SovceKOnwFs/s800/DSC04881.JPG

[Greedseed]

thats gone be tricky i think
but i think u will be able to overcome that again xD

[ballz0r]

i might be able to mod one of these (http://www1.acryan.com/_connectx/ACR-CB2605.shtml)T-Sata connectors


Normal sata power is 15 pin

pins 1-3 are 3.3V, 4-6 are ground, 7-9 are 5V, 10-12 are ground, 13-15 are 12V

SlimSata is 6pin

pins 1-3 are 5V, 4-6 are ground

So if i cut off the extra pins and switch the 3.3V for the 5V line.... it should work

[smee]

Well then you could just put the ram in the first 3 slots.. rather than spread them out. I know you won't be able to run them in tri channel (i think) but still, do you think you'll be able to tell???

[ballz0r]

All 6 will be filled :)

[Crow]

=\

I'd just cut the plastic bit of the connector, and do some ghetto modding, so I could have the cable going 90 degrees. If you feel unsafe about it, cover it up with some molding.

[ballz0r]

Got it!

Gota move the connector across so the first two wires thru it are 5V & Ground instead of 3.3V & Ground.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SwjS72e2ucI/AAAAAAAADcY/UZ80yt3d5Wk/s800/DSC04890.JPG

Then a bit of dremmel work
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SwjTAZ6QFaI/AAAAAAAADcc/nJ7oHqyoiUA/s800/DSC04895.JPG

done!
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SwjTFbBO65I/AAAAAAAADcg/VxH1ui26vPY/s800/DSC04899.JPG

[Crow]

... Duh...?

O.o

Now let's see it mounted.

[ballz0r]

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SwjjjioYWSI/AAAAAAAADc8/3ROBPAD8Ok8/s800/DSC04903.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/SwjjpQaCcdI/AAAAAAAADdE/tWPfeOpgQMY/s800/DSC04905.JPG

Next problem is gona be the 24 pin connector... I hope someone makes a right angled one

[BiNGE]

You could always get a little inventive ;)

Contact this guy if you really need some inspiration!

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=1314252&postcount=41

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo142/Partspicts/Picture039.jpg

[ballz0r]

I just bought one of these

http://img.techpowerup.org/091122/Capture096.jpg

http://au.farnell.com/jsp/displayProduct.jsp?sku=9963472&CMP=KNC-GAU-FAU-GEN-SKU-G12&s_kwcid=TC|15109|39-30-1240||S|b|3374308668


hopefully i can just jam it into the existing connector and wont need to desolder/resolder

[ballz0r]

You could always get a little inventive ;)

Contact this guy if you really need some inspiration!



thanks Binge.... I might use that idea for the 8 pin :up:

[ablatman]

I just bought one of these

http://img.techpowerup.org/091122/Capture096.jpg

http://au.farnell.com/jsp/displayProduct.jsp?sku=9963472&CMP=KNC-GAU-FAU-GEN-SKU-G12&s_kwcid=TC|15109|39-30-1240||S|b|3374308668


hopefully i can just jam it into the existing connector and wont need to desolder/resolder

I doubt that will work. Really, de-soldering a 24-pin connector with the kind of tools we usually have access to is nigh on impossible. I've seen several people try it, and in every case they ended up making a royal mess of the motherboard. If I were you I'd just get my father to help me pull a langer on the 24-pin (http://www.realredraider.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=29808&postcount=283)...

[BiNGE]

I doubt that will work. Really, de-soldering a 24-pin connector with the kind of tools we usually have access to is nigh on impossible. I've seen several people try it, and in every case they ended up making a royal mess of the motherboard. If I were you I'd just get my father to help me pull a langer on the 24-pin (http://www.realredraider.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=29808&postcount=283)...

Believe it or not I suggested that above ;) Click the link blatman.

[ablatman]

Believe it or not I suggested that above ;) Click the link blatman.

It may be the same general idea (solder onto contact points on the back of the mobo), but the implementation I linked to was not only neater, but on this forum...

[BiNGE]

So you snappin' at people who admit your idea is on the right track. I was thinking and this really is just about the best idea as long as you make sure nothing shorts.

[THP Dan]

If you leave the pins in the conector its fine, when you try and desolder it you get the problem ;)
Solder your cables to the back with the origional conector on (you could cut it off.)
I think im going to try it with an old motherboard ive got and if it works it can go in my garage :)

[ablatman]

If you leave the pins in the conector its fine, when you try and desolder it you get the problem ;)
Solder your cables to the back with the origional conector on (you could cut it off.)
I think im going to try it with an old motherboard ive got and if it works it can go in my garage :)

I think that the problem is more along the lines of not really being able to get all the pins desoldered at the same time; If I were to try it, I'd totally destroy the plastic connector at the top leaving only the pins so that I could remove the pins one by one over the course of a few sessions (so that I only did a few pins at a time so that I didn't get the board too hot).


Also, Binge; I wasn't trying to be a dick, sorry if I came across as one.

[THP Dan]

I think that the problem is more along the lines of not really being able to get all the pins desoldered at the same time; If I were to try it, I'd totally destroy the plastic connector at the top leaving only the pins so that I could remove the pins one by one over the course of a few sessions (so that I only did a few pins at a time so that I didn't get the board too hot).


Its easier not to desolder the pins, just solder a wire to the back side of the pins. Its when you try removing the pins that the problems start.

[ablatman]

Its easier not to desolder the pins, just solder a wire to the back side of the pins. Its when you try removing the pins that the problems start.

Exactly, and that's why I don't think the right-angled connector ballz0r is getting will really work too well.

Depending on how much space he has, a thing to try might be to cut the 24-pin connector off another PSU along with maybe 1/4" of wire and solder the wire to the pins of that right-angled jaunt. The other two options really seem feasible are to either wholesale replace the connector on the board (bad idea IMO for many reasons including warranty), or to solder to the back of the board.

Shit, I just found this: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?p=1879738&postcount=12

Should be a pretty easy mod to pull off if you know how to solder, and you know etch your own PCB's.

[ballz0r]

The Dominators were too tall for this build... so they will be moved across to the 4 way.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/Swu_SMPV-NI/AAAAAAAADgM/6BF7fBYWcnM/s800/DSC04939.JPG

These should do it

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/Swu_X0vdy_I/AAAAAAAADgQ/EN0k8yTY2pw/s800/DSC04938.JPG

mush better

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/Swu__3pZb9I/AAAAAAAADgs/39bygLKZhtY/s800/DSC04942.JPG

[p0Pe]

looks great man! love the alignement of the clips:P

[ballz0r]

arrrrrg.... Waiting for BP to complete the block for this board is killing me.... EK arent making one... anyone know any other options?

The damn lid wont even fit on the case with the stock cooler installed :(

[Crow]

Ballzy, I'm thinking of buying the X58 Micro. Firstly, what's your max OC on it, and what's the word on those BP blocks you spoke about elsewhere?

EDIT::
Wow, I should check the thread before asking questions.

I'm seriously waiting for those BP blocks to appear before I buy it. It's either the X58 Micro, or the Foxconn FlamingBlade.

Your only other option at this point is a custom made block by some guy, but it looks crappy, and is expensive.

[ablatman]

I thought I read somewhere that the EVGA X58 LE and X58 Micro were laid out similarly enough that you could use the LE block on the micro? I don't remember where I read that, so I wouldn't be inclined to be the guinea pig for it.

Does anyone here with a micro live near anyone with an LE and block?

[Crow]

I know that the mosfet blocks will fit, but I'm not sure about the chipsets.

[compmodder]

gotta love the mushkins. the only memory i will touch other than dominators(too expensive to always use)

[Crow]

Ok, MIPS says no dice on the X58 Micro blocks:

Taken from another forum:

hello kone,
many thanks for your request.
actually we have nothing in project with the evga x58 micro because there
where no requests at this time, you are the first who ask ^^
the mosfet section seems to be the same as x58 sli le, but nb&sb are at
other positions, so our dualchip freezer from the x58 sli le will not fit :-((
for a new dualchip solution there is not enough space between nb & sb and
too many parts in the way. so we could only make a single nb block i think.

mfg
Michael Franke
MIPS Computer GmbH


Make of it what you will. I also hear that MCH 055 / 1055 / 2055 will work for the NB, but their SB blocks are no dice if you want to use SLI.

NB:
http://www.mips-computer.com/index.htm?frame=sg_MIPSProductline_MosfetCooler_Co pperPomBlack.htm?ID=325&ref=sg_MIPSProductline_MosfetCooler_CopperPomBlack .htm

MOSFET:
http://www.mips-computer.com/index.htm?frame=sg_MIPSProductline_MosfetCooler_Co pperPomBlack.htm?ID=325&ref=sg_MIPSProductline_MosfetCooler_CopperPomBlack .htm

If you want to wait on Vincent, that's up to you, but Red is doing up the group buy now, and I'm considering jumping the gun on these.

[ballz0r]

thanks Crow :up:

Ill hit up vincent for an ETA, if its still in limbo, Ill grab these

[Liu Kang]

I'm a little late to game, Ballzor... but do any of the generic EK blocks fit the NB on the board?

[ballz0r]

small update

stripped down the hkiller for painting today

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S4UttzB48_I/AAAAAAAAEik/kRaUAWKa4-4/s800/photo%20%281%29.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S4UtwgHeVZI/AAAAAAAAEjA/WcoEZ9Cotk8/s800/photo.jpg

Sorry for the crap iphone pics

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S4Up_ErUpSI/AAAAAAAAEiE/0gYAK8ae5SU/s800/DSC01428.JPG

I l0ve this shot... ima post it in the pronz thread :D


Also installed the BP Blocks on my 295s


The screws that come with them are fucked up...

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S4UwemxgWZI/AAAAAAAAEjg/p0UoC_hf7PQ/s800/photo%20%283%29.jpg

I got rid of them and just used the original screws that were in the stock heatsink

Much better

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S4Uw_pNAh0I/AAAAAAAAEjk/Uo5OzRY-Is0/s800/photo%20%284%29.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S4UwZF1CX4I/AAAAAAAAEjE/NO_R8eIzPDU/s800/photo%20%282%29.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S4UqHj9Q4TI/AAAAAAAAEiI/NMSavWYSJOM/s800/DSC01434.JPG

[ballz0r]

I'm a little late to game, Ballzor... but do any of the generic EK blocks fit the NB on the board?

havent really looked into em liu... i dont really like universal blocks... the mounts look like ass... if i cant get a blackfreezer, ill go the mips

[just a noob]

There's a guy on the Evga forums that makes a fullcover block for the Evga micro: http://www.evga.com/FORUMS/tm.aspx?&m=39542&mpage=1 looks like it's all copper to me, so you could have it plated :coke:

[Crow]

It looks.
Like.
Ass.

[Marne]

does look like shit. big ass oblong looking retarded shit.

[ballz0r]

small update....

Got the Rad.... a RED HWLabs GTS 240

So I painted the 120mm fan guards that came inside the case to match

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S5Tt89zigtI/AAAAAAAAEy0/YQl5cjuTFkk/s800/DSC01514.JPG

Test fit..... perfect
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S5Ttze9ON5I/AAAAAAAAEyk/REdXxJr7Ewg/s800/DSC01509.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S5Tt2lPBdcI/AAAAAAAAEyo/iE8wzwWOut8/s800/DSC01510.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S5Tt4u27OcI/AAAAAAAAEys/mdeNQepb4wg/s800/DSC01511.JPG

Just gota make up some kinda bracket to mount it in there

[Schlosser]

:cum::cum::cum::cum::cum::cum::cum::cum::cum::cum:

The link between the two GPU blocks looks amazing, and really good job on the HK :up:

[dingdong555]

You're a crazy man....

[RedRaider]

coming along nicely...:crack:

[ablatman]

There's a guy on the Evga forums that makes a fullcover block for the Evga micro: http://www.evga.com/FORUMS/tm.aspx?&m=39542&mpage=1 looks like it's all copper to me, so you could have it plated :coke:

It looks.
Like.
Ass.

does look like shit. big ass oblong looking retarded shit.


I've kept a bit of an eye on that block, and from what I can tell, the guy making them is a hardcore amateur. It was clear from some of the mistakes he made early on that he really didn't have a good idea of where he was milling on one side relationally to the other, and he ended up milling holes straight through the block in a few places because of this (at least on one of the earlier prototypes).


Also keep in mind that the only part that the water actually directly cools is that central rectangle -- the mosfet area and the SB area are just passive sinks attached to the waterblock. I can understand cooling the SB somewhat passively, but there really is no excuse for not actively having water flow over the mosfets.

[Kuro]

omg these look sweet :slobber: ballz0r nice work :up:

[Septim]

very nice box. nice red grills.

[ballz0r]

well vincent seems to have fallen off the face of the earth, so I just placed an order for some MIPS blocks to complete this build.

[Crow]

Nice. Can't wait.

EDIT::

USD$100 total for both blocks (MCH2055 and MCH2164), not bad.

[ballz0r]

Update: Mounting the Rad

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6NWp8QJI6I/AAAAAAAAE4c/32r-VNB4L1Y/s800/DSC01593.JPG

Got a nibler from the local hardware store... handy tool for this stuff
Yeah i need practice, but it doesnt really matter because theres a face plate on the front... I might tidy it up with a file if im ever looking for something to do to piss the missus off.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6NWrpUAoZI/AAAAAAAAE4g/bY0Yjs8kYEA/s800/DSC01594.JPG


Reasonable alignment... the top middle holes will need some slotting.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6NWtYQ5PyI/AAAAAAAAE4k/kFTHYysLS-s/s800/DSC01595.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6NWvICbpYI/AAAAAAAAE4o/XwxCCwgWDY4/s800/DSC01596.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6NXrvBCIvI/AAAAAAAAE4w/W5lCJsOlp2g/s800/DSC01599.JPG

Now i need to either send this face plate off to be laser cut, or put a 240 fan grill on there.... Any suggestions?

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6NXs_0IhXI/AAAAAAAAE40/qPVx_vEG9-E/s800/DSC01601.JPG

[dingdong555]

Dude, bring your case to me, I have a jiggy and have done cutouts for a 240 + 480 in a Corsair 800D for a mate! Give us a PM.

[ballz0r]

Dude, bring your case to me, I have a jiggy and have done cutouts for a 240 + 480 in a Corsair 800D for a mate! Give us a PM.

Are your jigsaw skills good enough to tackle the front plate? not really anyroom for mistakes there...

I was going to get slits cut in the front like this

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6OOeXCCPBI/AAAAAAAAE6I/tz7lcSQFQ7g/s800/Untitled.jpg

[ballz0r]

did bit more assembly tonight, its starting to come together

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6OK_ZFY0SI/AAAAAAAAE50/1mZuZVZ-Zcc/s800/DSC01604.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6OK260ML6I/AAAAAAAAE6A/yYIC4tLaoQQ/s800/DSC01610.JPG

[Floyd]

Wow there is NO room in there for that 295! It looks like its damn close to touching the rad grill.

[p0Pe]

yeah thats some tight fitting right there:D looks good mate!

[ballz0r]

Wow there is NO room in there for that 295! It looks like its damn close to touching the rad grill.
about a 2mm gap :D

[Floyd]

about a 2mm gap :D

.079" for this side of the pond.
Thats close man!

[Kuro]

Man this looks absolutely sick :slobber:

[Greedseed]

ai ai ai balzzy its getting better and better

[ballz0r]

hmmm that crappy grill I drew gave me an idea....

if i just painted on some eyes....


http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6OzqsLLWDI/AAAAAAAAE7A/S97KKG8kjqk/s800/Darlek.jpg



I need another solution

[Floyd]

I need another solution

Try making the slots smaller just a little and cocking them at a 45*
I dont like plain jane straight slat grills.

[dingdong555]

Why not use something like this (http://www.gammods.com.au/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5&products_id=1670)? It'd be MUCH easier.

If you want a perfectly clean cut for those slots you want, you're going to need to go to a CNC or waterjet to get a good finish.

[shrimp71]

Love it

[ballz0r]

I took a bit more care cutting the windows :)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6SMXZ2wnvI/AAAAAAAAE74/Em9LSf0FkOg/s800/DSC01611.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6SMf6Lfm2I/AAAAAAAAE8c/C_MrI6onyXk/s800/DSC01615.JPG

im using some of that acryan mirror acrylic

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6SMhsettPI/AAAAAAAAE8g/UZqIVbRVpL8/s800/DSC01616.JPG

it goes translucent when there is more light inside the case than outside
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6SMjFf3BrI/AAAAAAAAE8k/JN02aaIwO8w/s800/DSC01620.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6SMkvm-iEI/AAAAAAAAE8o/O0M2oByMUrg/s800/DSC01621.JPG

This is a cool effect i didnt expect... the BP block has a mirror finish, so it creates an infinity effect with the mirrored window... kinda like when you are in an elevator with mirrors on both sides.... its hard to get on camera, but it looks trippy IRL

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6SMmr-4fkI/AAAAAAAAE8s/8TV1_Dg2jgU/s800/DSC01624.JPG

[p0Pe]

nice and clean cuts man! thats how to fucking do it!

[Kuro]

Man that looks awesome ballz0r

[ballz0r]

man im stoked about how these windows turned out

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6TgFGi1sBI/AAAAAAAAE9U/cmLJaHZQuw4/s800/DSC01631.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6TgDSveGUI/AAAAAAAAE9Q/FIQ0vRUS4t8/s800/DSC01632.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6TgBre5p_I/AAAAAAAAE9M/yOc8n63MUDc/s144/DSC01634.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6Tf6SjiqyI/AAAAAAAAE9A/PoGAF5ea8tg/s800/DSC01637.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6TfwLwggPI/AAAAAAAAE84/cca6zdSskdQ/s800/DSC01641.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6Tf1TdS1pI/AAAAAAAAE88/WnUiBH2FAQU/s800/DSC01648.JPG

[frieten]

very nice i was looking at getting some of that ac ryan stuff for a build of mine and seeing it in a build gives me confidence that it is actually awesome and not shit like i thought it would be.

[ballz0r]

I was so pleased by the infinity effect I decided to make it on the other side too.

I cut another piece of that mirror acrylic to go over the graphics card... this acts as a splash guard too... not so important with horizontal mobos tho

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6ZHwNYS3EI/AAAAAAAAE-o/Y9B_bU2PoqA/s800/DSC01651.JPG

Its hard to get on photo, but it looks like the ram stretched on forever and there are about 10 processors in there :) its gona look wicked when its all tubed up

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6ZIC0pi3BI/AAAAAAAAE_A/1TPr0QKeSF4/s800/DSC01664.JPG

Made a little vid that shows it better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFahPbrOCw4

I also squeezed another little rad in there, a BIX 80 Micro (finally found a use for it :))

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6ZH2T6sYiI/AAAAAAAAE-w/Mywh6j4AG5E/s800/DSC01655.JPG

Thats the exterior just about done, all i need to do is get the face plate cut

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6ZIJ1eLNBI/AAAAAAAAE_I/OAh-U0VgbNI/s800/DSC01678.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6ZINE3TQNI/AAAAAAAAE_M/viCsEvVejHs/s800/DSC01679.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6ZIQvlxoRI/AAAAAAAAE_Q/PGecaf6FBps/s800/DSC01680.JPG

[ablatman]

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6ZHwNYS3EI/AAAAAAAAE-o/Y9B_bU2PoqA/s800/DSC01651.JPG

That looks spectacular. I wish I could see the effect you're talking about, but the pics/vid, other than the one I quoted, obviously don't do it justice.

I can't wait to see the finished product here.

[just a noob]

Hey ballzor, what kind of paint did you use here? is it like a matt grey or something? because i like it :coke:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S4Up_ErUpSI/AAAAAAAAEiE/0gYAK8ae5SU/s800/DSC01428.JPG

[Greedseed]

loooooking black ballzy :O

very sleek box dude :o

[ballz0r]

Hey ballzor, what kind of paint did you use here? is it like a matt grey or something? because i like it :coke:

Satin Black

[scraps]

Looking really fucking cool, and pimp

[trfnj74]

Thats fucking sweet.....Im definately no expert but if you put white background and bottom around the MB tray this pic would pop the fuck out...

[QUOTE=ballz0r;106762]
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6ZHwNYS3EI/AAAAAAAAE-o/Y9B_bU2PoqA/s800/DSC01651.JPG

[ballz0r]

justimagine that reflection stretching on forever... thats what I see looking inside with the side panels on... I wish it came out better in the photos.

I need more light in there

[Schlosser]

ballz0r... I should sue you for all those pairs of pants that has been ruined thanks to you...

[ballz0r]

I think im gona go two loops...
240 for CPU & GPUs with 1" red tubes
80 for Ram, NB & Mosfets with 1/4" black tube

This XSPC bay res is too long to fit with an ODD on the other side.... so I gota find a new place to put the ODD :)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6drPVFJQsI/AAAAAAAAFAo/PL4b5c1T3qA/s800/DSC01686.JPG

Too much Red?

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6drTbsz9cI/AAAAAAAAFAw/PXYCB6vcrQc/s800/DSC01696.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6drY5kt6VI/AAAAAAAAFBI/KA7y-V4Ow3w/s800/DSC01712.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6drblJy1CI/AAAAAAAAFBQ/lYXYsY0VIjw/s800/DSC01715.JPG

[scraps]

Holy shit Ballzor it looks fan-fucking-tastic, you're awesome. Got enough black comps?? Its like a big pile of :crack: lol

[Greedseed]

BP MADNESSS

[p0Pe]

holy fucking shit thats a lot of BP fittings man! thats a small car in fittings there:D

[Crow]

Holy crap, are you planning to hard-pipe your entire loop?

[ablatman]

Holy crap, are you planning to hard-pipe your entire loop?

Nah, he just put in a huge order back when they introduced the matte black fittings so that he could do like three whole builds with all matte black parts. I remember him posting the list of parts he ordered.... :coke:

[ShadowHunter]

two words came out of my mouth: OH TITS

[Kuro]

Man thats :crack: ballz0r :coke: :D

[ballz0r]

Got a bit of a design for the fan cutouts

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S64X72tFMiI/AAAAAAAAFFE/yC3V3_IScBE/s800/2.jpg

The white would be cut out of the face plate.... it looks simple enough to do with a dremel... :hmm:

[ballz0r]

trial cut out on paper worked a treat

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S6zhFUpQLzI/AAAAAAAAFEM/t5XSfYCIS38/s800/DSC01718.JPG

[ballz0r]

this is where i got to before the dremel packed it in

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S7B7E8otkRI/AAAAAAAAFF8/V-Bp9xxHkXU/s800/Front.jpg

So far so good

[Kuro]

whats the creature/person thing? and you have some steady hands to cut that well

[dingdong555]

Very nice man, but on the ironing board? ROFL.

[scraps]

looking really good, cant wait to see them mounted

[ballz0r]

whats the creature/person thing? and you have some steady hands to cut that well

Just a little robot dude I found, thought he kinda looked cool

Very nice man, but on the ironing board? ROFL.

thats not an ironing board...... ....anymore :rofl:

[ballz0r]

picked up a new dremel... and some other modding supplies

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5JXSu5Gfgo4/S7DF4_bPMsI/AAAAAAAAFGo/MX4sk88iCWw/s800/photo.jpg

[Greedseed]

lol stella artois ^^ Belgian beer :D

[Schlosser]

Uuhm, Stella :slobber:

[ballz0r]

The MIPS blocks arrived last week and they were straight off to the platers.

It was funny, I took along my RRTech Plated HeatKiller 3.0 and said "I want them to look like this" the guy looked at me kinda funny and said "your fucking kidding..... right??" :rofl:

Ill get them back this Friday so hopefully this build will be completed next weekend :woot:

[Overclocking101]

fucking bow chicka mow wow! now I know where are the BP black fittings are at! and balzor you can never have to much RED :crack: rig looks sick m8 and that cut out is the titts!

EDIT: how did you get it to mirrir shine like that?? and what do you use to re apply the
hk 3.0 plate after painting it?? ima do the same but white just dont know what to re apply it with.