Difference between two PSUs - PCP&C

[zlojack]

I've been checking out PSUs.

What's the difference between these two?

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=32993&vpn=PPCT1200ESA&manufacture=PC%20Power%20%26%20Cooling

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=26662&vpn=T12W&manufacture=PC%20Power%20%26%20Cooling

The only thing I can see is that ESA Certification. Does ESA really give any benefit?

[TedShred]

from the PCP&C site http://www.pcpower.com/power-supply/turbo-cool-1200-esa.html

ESA (Enthusiast System Architecture) Ready
The Turbo-Cool 1200W ESA-Ready power supply supports temperature, current, and voltage monitoring, allowing enthusiasts to diagnose component-specific issues without the need for trial and error. ESA can help guard against the risks associated with overclocking by monitoring your system's functionality and inner environment. Inside the PSU is a proprietary daughterboard - engineered and manufactured by PC Power & Cooling - that provides the ESA functionality. A USB 2.0 cable to interface with the management software in included with the complete array of connectors. The Turbo-Cool 1200 ESA is optimized to work with NVIDIA nForce® SLI™ platforms.

... or is that old news? PSUs freak me out.

[Langer]

nVidias ESA support site (http://www.nvidia.com/object/nvidia_esa.html) + downloads (http://www.nvidia.com/object/nvidia_system_tools_6.02.html)

PCP&C info on ESA (http://www.pcpower.com/technology/esa-power-supplies.html)

[zlojack]

I read that stuff about ESA. Does it really help? Or is it a gimmick?

What's with the USB connector? Do I have to run it out of the back of the case to plug into a USB port?

My motherboard isn't ESA Certified, according to nVidia's site. So I suppose it's not for me.

[Baleful]

If you ask me, it was a cool concept when it was first brewed up, but is more of a gimmick these days. Little to no support for new mainstream hardware has pretty much left ESA in the dust.

[zlojack]

So basically, no need for it... good to know.

Now...next question:

Will my Corsair be able to hang with i7 920 at 4GHz, tri-SLI GTX 285s, 4 DDCs, 12 fans on two Rheobus Extremes, 3 HDDs, 1 Optical and a couple of CCFLs?

[Ricey]

So basically, no need for it... good to know.

Now...next question:

Will my Corsair be able to hang with i7 920 at 4GHz, tri-SLI GTX 285s, 4 DDCs, 12 fans on two Rheobus Extremes, 3 HDDs, 1 Optical and a couple of CCFLs?

It is expected to. I would hope so.

I would say yes.

The Corsair HX1000 is supposed to be a Channel Well 1200 watt model in disguise.

Corsair openly advertises it as supporting Tri SLI.

If mine worked out of the box, I would have confirmed for you by now.

I have a machine with 4 Ghz, tri SLI, two or four pumps, right now 8 HDDs, two opticals, 6 USB powered devices, etc etc...

Not to give you false hope, but my Zeus 850W seems to work ok as a stand-in... of course I haven't run 3D Mark Vantage.

[Xilikon]

I have folders running the HX1000 with 3x GTX 295 and a quad... I'm sure it's more than sufficient for your needs ;)

[zlojack]

Nice...thanks for the responses.

And if I wanted to add some more fans (maybe on a sandwich rad setup ;) ) I'd still be ok?

[Ricey]

Incidently, there's no comparison between the PCP&C 1200 watt and the Corsair HX1000. Apples and oranges. Like comparing a civillian Hummer H3 to the real deal HMMMV.

The differences are also reflected in the pricing differences.

I put in a request to PCP&C to build me a custom PSU with 10 pci-e connectors.

[Xilikon]

You are overestimating the power consumption of the components. Just look at this then pick your jaw : http://atlasfolding.com/?page_id=148

[Ricey]

Sorry I don't buy that. It may work for Folding. Try any old 1kW power supply with tri sli and 3D Mark Vantage will shut it down.


Isn't 123K points per day kind of low for that sort of equipment?

[Xilikon]

Isn't 123K points per day kind of low for that sort of equipment?

Not all cards is folding. Only 2 racks with 4x GTX 295 each is running. When all is running, you will see upward of 300k ppd :crack:

If you shutdown your computer when running 3dmark, you have a problem but I bet it's not the PSU but surely a instable overclocking (or even a unstable stock setup, bad memory, etc...)

[Ricey]

What? Why does he have more than half of his equipment idle ?

Naw... 3D Mark has a habit of shutting down weak psus even at stock speeds.

[bigslappy]

I have 2 of the
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=26662&vpn=T12W&manufacture=PC%20Power%20%26%20Cooling
& that's not a bad price cad$ for it ....
Part#T12w

these are golden !

[Cutless009]

I get my T12W tomorrow :) Solid PSU, but be prepared for the jet noise at high load.

[bigslappy]

STFU it's not that loud even under load

[Hondacity]

I have 2 of the
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=26662&vpn=T12W&manufacture=PC%20Power%20%26%20Cooling
& that's not a bad price cad$ for it ....
Part#T12w

these are golden !

your link says 90A

on pcpowers webpage its 100A

weird

[Ricey]

The same people who grumble about one 80 mm fan are the same people who have no problem with having 32 San Ace fans in one case.

[Cutless009]

who me? run 11 Kaze Ultras at 3K rpm in one case? what? not ME :werd:

[Hondacity]

corsair never got the tripple sli 285/280 certification

only the 9800gtx ...

whats your sli video cards?

c2q at 4ghz is not corei7 at 4ghz...


I'm so sorry... I goofed up big time hitting the edit button instead of the quote button. I apologize profusely.

Response from Ricey

It doesn't matter what the certification was. Does it work, or does it not work?

Mine are three 285s at 730 on the core and 2800 on the memory. And its a Core i7 with the HT turned on.

More important is everything else I use. Video cards are the least of my worries.

And so far the sucker is holding up, but I haven't turned on the true stress yet, and i gather that's when the weak PSUs would fail.

Again, I am sorry I messed up on the answer.

[bigslappy]

older model is 90A newer model is 100A
as my 1st one is marked 90A
the newest one of my 2 is marked 100A

[bigslappy]

both put out the same level of sound from the fan & my Yate Loons are louder

[Hondacity]

You are overestimating the power consumption of the components. Just look at this then pick your jaw : http://atlasfolding.com/?page_id=148

just saw your rig..good stuff

why do you have the dual psu ...1200/650?

what was your 1200w psu?

[zlojack]

Incidently, there's no comparison between the PCP&C 1200 watt and the Corsair HX1000. Apples and oranges. Like comparing a civillian Hummer H3 to the real deal HMMMV.

The differences are also reflected in the pricing differences.

I put in a request to PCP&C to build me a custom PSU with 10 pci-e connectors.

I'm not comparing the two. All I want to know is if the one I have will work. If it will, then I'll keep it. If I need the other, then I'll get it. I suppose I'll just try it out and see what happens.

The same people who grumble about one 80 mm fan are the same people who have no problem with having 32 San Ace fans in one case.
LOL

No San Aces for me. S-Flex FTW

[Cutless009]

I have S-Flex's on this latest build, I dont like them. They feel flimsy and cheap compared to the ultra kaze's.

[zlojack]

I have S-Flex's on this latest build, I dont like them. They feel flimsy and cheap compared to the ultra kaze's.

Feel?

Mine are quiet and push a lot of air and can be mounted in any orientation I like due to the bearings. I don't sit here fondling them to care about how they feel :D

[Cutless009]

Yah I got them because they would be hung horizontally, which would be a big no-no for the ultra's. They are quiet as hell though, I cant even hear them over my PSU fan when I have them on half way, and even on full they are very bearable like maybe 28db

[Xilikon]

Cut, quit smoking some :crack:

the S-Flex is the high quality fans and the Ultra Kaze are the cheap ones. I'm not pulling this out of my ass since I own 2x Ultra Kaze 3000 and 3x S-Flex SFF21F ;)

[Ricey]

Jack,

I wished I could answer your question. I would if I could... if my Corsair PSU worked...

I cheaped out and didn't buy the T12. I guess I'm paying for that mistake.

I believe the Corsair PSU will work. Its made to work, regardless of what Nvidia says. For crying out loud, they gave a certification to a lot of cheap ass Taiwanese companies... won't name them.

S-Flexes are very quiet. I myself prefer EBM Papst.. the German equivalent.

[Cutless009]

Hey I claim to know nothing, Im just going on what it felt like to me. As far as noise/air movement, I get no better temps at 100% then I do at 50%, which to me is a good thing since I idle at 28c with these fans, so you can consider me a "fan" :P

[bigslappy]

Can we get back on TOPIC!!


this is a PSU thread NOT A FAN THREAD

Cut u take too many drugs Bro! OR U don't take enuff !!

[Cutless009]

Im broke foo, send me a BLUNT. xD

Oh yah, and PCP&C = win. I have an old 500watter that will actually boot a tri-sli 280 Q6600 rig :)