Ready to upgrade.

[EIGHTLUG]

I'd like some input on upgrading from my GTX 285... :hide: Yeah I said GTX 285. I'm looking for best bang for the buck from Team Green. Not totally into max FPS and benchmark tweaks like before. Just looking for steady 60+ Frames. I game @ 1920X1200 and roll around 25-30 frames at BFBC2. I'm really looking to do this upgrade for CRYSIS and B3 when it's released. I've done a couple builds for friends using 1 or 2 GTX 460's. They say that they run pretty well. But they are also WoW :crack:heads....

Going under water is going to be a must, so a card with a quality block on the market would be a big plus. Let me know what you guys think. I'm more of a fan of one powerhouse of a card then SLi 2 or 3 mediocre cards. But, if I'd get better frames running SLi with 2 560's lets say over a single 580/90, keeping bang for the buck in mind, I'd go that route.

Current system specs are as follows on the gaming rig:

EVGA X58 SLI, 920 DO @ 4.2, 6 Gigs of Corsair Dom's, and a 1kW Corsair HX.

[BigMyke]

Sounds like you are better off SLIng 570 cards or just one 580 at your resolution. The 560ti cards are worth looking into as well.

[scraps]

On my i7 860 @ 4.0 with my 470gtx @ 750mhz, on my 1080p screen I get any where from 35-65 frames in C2 on extreme, 70-120 on very high settings; way better than my sli'd 260gtx. I haven't checks my fps on BFBC2 but it plays smooth. With that said, 560 sli'd will do better than stock 580; but as said elsewhere, the upgrade route end's right there. I always look at Nvidia cards as cuda core count/speed vs cost, and tend to stick to sli or less. If you find people dumping 580's for cheep I would go with them.

[xmanrigger]

Well 8, from having a GTX295+Q8400 in one machine, and running a single then dual 480 SLI setup, the 295 smoked the 480 until I added the second one.

The 295 is more than acceptable and quite pleasing with METRO 2033 with a Q8400. You just dont get DX11 effects, which ya, are bling. Havnt tried Crysis2 with it yet though.
Bypass the 400 series and go for a GTX580 or GTX590, or you are wasting your money.

[EIGHTLUG]

Yeah nigger rigger, that's what I was looking at, was the 580's. I'm trying to dig up some specs on a pair of 560's V. (1) 580. Price for power and see what comes out on top. I'd like to have something I can roll for another couple of years before my games run at crippling speeds. Also keeping in mind that SLi will require another block, more CHROME :crack:, fittings, etc.... A single 580 does look more and more appealing. Damn I'm starting to sound like FLOYD :rofl:

[Baleful]

GTX560 Ti offers the best bang/buck performance ratio out of NV's lineup.

You can grab 2 560's for $500 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604) and they will easily outperform (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/41903-nvidia-geforce-gtx-590-3gb-review-9.html) a single GTX580 for the same exact cost.

[Marne]

how much more ass do they kick than say a single 295 on air?

[Baleful]

how much more ass do they kick than say a single 295 on air?

:shrug:

You have BF:BC2? If so, perform the same tests on that game that HWC (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/41903-nvidia-geforce-gtx-590-3gb-review-9.html) did, and compare your results. You have to take your results with a grain of salt as you don't have a 4Ghz i7 test bed like they do, but you can still get ballpark numbers.

Honestly though, I'm about to upgrade to CF 6950's. The performance/buck ratio they offer is just insane. If I had a board that could run SLI I would more than likely go with SLI 560 Ti's, but I'm stuck with my 775 build for a little longer so :moon:

[Floyd]

Damn I'm starting to sound like FLOYD :rofl:
Haha
I just go for the best bang for the buck is all. Id suggest a single 580 if the price is right, otherwise the 560ti is a bad motherfucker for what you get.

[0xygenthief]

Hands down 2 560 cards in SLI FTW!

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/02/21/msi_n560gtx_ti_twin_frozr_ii_oc_sli_review/8

Exactly the comparison you were looking for 8.

[Overclocking101]

I would not get 2 560's for this simple reason, in 6-8 months they will struggle with the newer games and then you cant do shit but get rid of themm and restart, with say a GTX570/580 you can buy another one in 6-8months and get double the FPS. 560 TI only does 2way sli therefore that added performance down the road can not be a factor. take it from me I bought 2X5770's instead on 1X5870 then one later and now I seriously regret it if I had bought the 5870 I wouldnt need a full re purchase this summer.

[Baleful]

I would not get 2 560's for this simple reason, in 6-8 months they will struggle with the newer games and then you cant do shit but get rid of themm and restart, with say a GTX570/580 you can buy another one in 6-8months and get double the FPS. 560 TI only does 2way sli therefore that added performance down the road can not be a factor. take it from me I bought 2X5770's instead on 1X5870 then one later and now I seriously regret it if I had bought the 5870 I wouldnt need a full re purchase this summer.

You are fucking crazy :rofl:

Nigger, I bought a 4870 2 years ago, 7 months later added a 4850 for hybrid CF and that shit is STILL chugging along today. Can I run my games maxed out at 1920x1200? Not anymore, but fucking close to it.

My point is, this setup WILL NOT be obsolete in 6-8 months, or even 12 months. :bird:

BTW, I just pulled the trigger on a single 6950 :crack: Will probably pull the trigger on another one in a few weeks :coke:

[Overclocking101]

I guess that depends, he did say he was looking for 60ish fps. personally i hate playing games with less then max settings, especially FPS games. That said your right it wont be obsolete but his upgrade path stops there, if he is unhappy with 2X560's he will have to buy a whole new gpu whereas with a 580 he wouldnt. I guess that was what I was trying to say.
and oh yeah :bird:

[XMT_Systems]

I've been eyeballing this card for a couple weeks. EVGA GeForce GTX 460 2Win (http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=02G-P3-1387-AR) I haven't seen any liquid cooling options for it yet though. Still, it outscores a single 580.

[jacobroufa]

Wow that 560ti SLI setup fuckin' stomps a single 580. You'd have to spend more money on cooling for an SLI setup, but WOW.

Also, OC101 I'm in agreement with Baleful here.... My buddy's got a CF 4870 setup he bought almost two years ago now when they were in their prime.... He still maxes pretty much every game he plays. I'll be he's got another year in that setup before he upgrades.

[cyriene]

I think a 570 or 580 would be the way to go. Add another later.
The WB options for the higher end cards seem better as well. Would suck to spend less $$ on SLI 560 and buy 2 expensive WBs only to regret it later.

I'm rolling CF 6950s and play most games maxed (Crysis 1 almost max) on my 30 inch monitor.

[xmanrigger]

I just did a build with an i7 950 and 2X GTX560Ti. They performed stellar.

I didnt get too many 3DM11 benches, but a few 3DMV.

Here are links 3DMV:P32384 (http://3dmark.com/3dmv/2958907)
P34354 (http://3dmark.com/3dmv/2957198)

3DM11: P7808 (http://3dmark.com/3dm11/787364)
I didnt get a chance to do very many 3DM11, as client was sitting, waiting for PC.

But these scores are a good indication as to the performance of the GTX560 in SLI..

[Overclocking101]

i would get the 480's that were mentioned earlier

[Cruiza]

Also regarding the 560s, I've read that the 470 is actually faster when both are OCed (and generally cheaper) since it has more shader units, ROPs, memory, and bus width. I don't know if I ever saw actual numbers, though, so I'm guessing the difference is negligible. Personally, I'd go with a 480/570 and get a second later on, or wait for Kepler later this year.

[ablatman]

i would get the 480's that were mentioned earlier

Honestly, last I looked 480's ran ~500 new, and 570 were running around 350. The only place where the 480 was superior was in total amount of RAM.

Honestly, I'd just get a 570, it seems to me to be the best bet; Hopefully you'll get one that's built off the 580 reference card rather than the 570 reference card (you can generally tell by the location and type of the power inputs). The Aquacomputer blocks for that card look fucking TITS.

[Overclocking101]

no mcoffey I think offered him a deal on 2 480's with WB's installed. thats what I was talking about

[Baleful]

It all comes to whatever your budget is man. If you have a tighter budget, then the 560's will do you just fine. If you have the budget that will allow for 570's, then that is definitely a good route to go as well.

[Overclocking101]

I agree. the 560's are great cards and 2 perform like a 580 and a half, The only reason I suggested higher cards is I know that I always regret it 6-8months down the road. me its more the itch and being dissatisfied with performance on certain things. I do agree also that there wont be any games that seriously throttle 2 560's. game DEV's are more worried about maxing out on consoles because they are easier to support.