IWAKI RD-30 PUMP WATERCOOLED PC Maddness Modder build

[bigslappy]

this a simple mod for the Iwaki .. this is the prim work I did for that MM build that will start sooooooooooooon

I'm a Mock-up FREAK I like to Know it's gonna work before throw it all together & Hope it works Type of Guy !
OK here it is...............
the proto type /test version has passed with flying colors
( I love getting NEW Tool machines )


the inside of the smallest part of this thing is THE same size as the Inlet to a Iwaki RD-30 >>> 18mm
the tap used is a pipe tap & they are tapered so that the farther the threads go in the tight the seal
Many THANX go out to Alex & Quoc from Petra's
Alex was Soo kind to send me an bunch of EK tops to experiment with....

But due to getting the right machine , good advice from a few member's here, a local hardware store who had a emplyoee who knew what i needed to do just after a short conversation & was able to explain it to me .. I've had success with the 1st go at EK test bunny Res bottom !

here's the PIX

agin Thanx to everyone !

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[bigslappy]

hi....................I'm gonna find a Fat O-Ring to go between that fitting & the bottom Soo I shouldn't need teflon tape &/OR plumber's sealant goona hook it up to the mock up test bed & have more pix ...
__________________this mod makes a EK Res Top into a Res bottom with a single outlet that is the same size as the inlet to an Iwaki RD-30
that when used with 1 inch PVC pipe & the 12 inch > 9o degree radis 1 inch PVC pipe ,leads to a high flow > no restriction water inlet to the pump IE; the pumps works way easier to get water to itself
I'm using 2 each Iwaki's , 2 each EK400 res ,the two modded res bottons ,the fittings ,> 2 each ,12 inchs of 90 degree radis bend to feed water the the pump heads > all pipe & fittings are 18 mm all the way from res to pump (Iwaki rd-30's pump inlets are 18mm)
the EK res's i'm using are the EK400 res with the return flow coming in at the top of the resivior that each will have a Vortex plate , fill tube & a temp prope


1 loop >>>> will have cpu VeeTek V2 & X48 chipset block that has been modded, a DD MPC brass top & modded bass hold down = 4 hole = with modded brass back plate held in place with VeeTec modded screws

2nd loop >>>> will have the 4870X2's looks to be the DD ones ,mosfits

all this on a QX9770 sitting in a Rampage Formula MoBo


this is all gonna be on a modded test bed till I build myself a Cube & an rad box with a 1000 CFM blower with dual GTX480's (the rad box with be running the test bed Also ! ) The rad box is done & sitting in a place that has a ambiant temp of 50 F
NO UBER VORTEX & i'm not kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this thing is a work of art
I had both pumps running 12 hours yesterday witha a hour bleed out
NOW not a bubble to be seen
am now refining the fitting to all gray SCLD#40 PVC & an fat o-ring between the top & fittings rebuilding one of the loops with the new stuff

NO LEAKS !

And i didn't even glue the PVC fittings

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[bigslappy]

hi .............................
.....................RESPECT THE PUMP....................
any way here NEW PIX of the redid fittings
this is the final mod and this setup has run all week on both pumps & no leaks
no air bubbles in loops AT ALL !
those 90's can be reduced in lenght by about 2 1/2" on each end if needed just the glued ends need an inch of straight to fit into the fitting to be glued properly.

NOTE ; that I didn't even clamp the the PVC 90 's to the tubing ;in the final build those will be clampped also

2nd Note ; notice the dual tubing setup on the Iwaki inlet this allows for a smooth inside diameter transition from 90 degree PVC to pump inlet , clamped with a wide worm gear clamp ; as the Iwaki Inlet is 1/2 as thick walled as the PVC pipe is ........ ;p......................


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[bigslappy]

hi................................................ ..........here pix of the bottoms now used as tops >> note the bleed-out tubes with the water level ; this lets it bleed very quicky as the bubbles get trapped on the other side of the vortex plate & go up into the temporay bleed-out tube . right now i just plug the tops with a plug when blead-out ,in the case build soo i can swap MoBo's,waterblocks ,vid cards with ease & get to the restart switches, CMOS switches & when i upgrade to the Rampage Extreme 2 X58 MoBo, this spring , I can get to all those Cool O/C'in' switches also

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[zlojack]

This is...CRAZY!

I love it Bigslappy!

Keep it coming!

[bigslappy]

that's nuttin wait till you see the blower 1000 CFM

[Fitseries3]

you have another iwaki laying around you could sell me? :D

thats pretty sweet man. im thinking of something similar.

[bigslappy]

Jab-tech the cheapest i'm buyin 2 more real soon

the dually MoBo MM build will have 4 of them L O L

[Fitseries3]

jeeez. i run mine at 16v - 18v to keep the flow down. any higher and it doesnt cool as well.

im just using 2 pa120.3's though and 8ft of tubing to a gtz and nb-max with a ek250 res. pretty simple setup but cools really well. im thinking of getting 2 feser 480's though.

[bigslappy]

my middle name is "more is better"

[bigslappy]

if u got the tops ,the old style, i can mod them for Ya ..

[Snyxxx]

That is just massive and beautiful. Must be incredible flow.

Good job, bud. Keep it going. I want to see all four in there.

[Ketzer7]

This is pretty old (fuck almost a year), I know, sorry to revive..

Are there still any pix left from this thread floating around somewhere? I was curious to see the work and outcome, but none of the pix are showing up..

Thanks

[vanarnam]

Ketzer-agreed! There's some pics on the "other forum" but I'd rather see them here. I've actually just bought a great deal from bigslappy (a pile of GTX rads and both the EK 400 res's w/ the schedule 40 bends) and I'll post up pics here of what I'm doing with them. But I'd like to see what the master did w/ them too.

my pumps are iwaki md-30rzt's (a bit more head than the rd-30) and the inlets are both 3/4 NPT male so his stuff worked perfectly. I'd never joined PVC pipe before...

my wife says slappy is a bad influence. wait till i show her the pics of the 1000CFM blower he has.

[Mutant_Tractor]

Hi slappy, can you re-up those pictures?
Im trying to mod my EK400 for use with my RD-30 but i cant figure it out,
Cheers man :)

[vanarnam]

Mutant Tractor-I bought BigSlappy's EK res's...I'll take a picture and post when I'm home in 2 hrs or so. Just a 3/4" NPT tap put in the end that is traditionally the top...

[RedRaider]

I've fixed the thread, added pics that I had saved...:up:

[RedRaider]

Here is one of my Big Slappy EK Res Mods...:crack:


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WOW....no vortex...

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[vanarnam]

Thanks Red!! Great pictures by the both of you.

[EIGHTLUG]

WOW!!! Oh RR your pictures are so good. You're the man! :up:

[Kuro]

OMG :omg: 4 Iwaki RD30s :slobber:

[KaptCrunch]

Ketzer-agreed! There's some pics on the "other forum" but I'd rather see them here. I've actually just bought a great deal from bigslappy (a pile of GTX rads and both the EK 400 res's w/ the schedule 40 bends) and I'll post up pics here of what I'm doing with them. But I'd like to see what the master did w/ them too.

my pumps are iwaki md-30rzt's (a bit more head than the rd-30) and the inlets are both 3/4 NPT male so his stuff worked perfectly. I'd never joined PVC pipe before...

my wife says slappy is a bad influence. wait till i show her the pics of the 1000CFM blower he has.

Doc how are you coming along with this project any pics of finished work of art

[KaptCrunch]

hi .............................
.....................RESPECT THE PUMP....................

NOTE ; that I didn't even clamp the the PVC 90 's to the tubing ;in the final build those will be clampped also

2nd Note ; notice the dual tubing setup on the Iwaki inlet this allows for a smooth inside diameter transition from 90 degree PVC to pump inlet , clamped with a wide worm gear clamp ; as the Iwaki Inlet is 1/2 as thick walled as the PVC pipe is ........ ;p......................

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Respect? yeah only think of the pump and Bigslappy. but behind the pic is another story

where did RESPECT THE PUMP orginate from ?

rd30 was introduced to WC'ing when i turned cather on to it

and your ES buddy didn't know how to use it
he chink he knew it

RED thank for fixing nice pics

[Mutant_Tractor]

Thanks for all the info guys!
Just gotta figure out howto mount this bugger inside my case :P

EDIT:
Thats pretty extreme, would it be possible to drill out the EK res top to allow the inlet of the RD-30 to fit right into it?
I could use a big grommet and some sealant to make sure of no leakage,
Decent idea or will that create this dredded vortex? :P

[Ketzer7]

would it be possible to drill out the EK res top to allow the inlet of the RD-30 to fit right into it?
I could use a big grommet and some sealant to make sure of no leakage,
Decent idea or will that create this dredded vortex? :P

ballz0r set his up that way:

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[Mutant_Tractor]

Perfect thats exactly what i wanted!
Big of a predicament with the length of the res and pump as well as tubing size, looks like ill have to externally mount it :(
Will i need to drill the top out if im running it at 18v, it runs at a slower rpm so there might not be cavitation if i do use standard 1/2 ID tubing or is that what everyone does?
As far as i know all these mods are for RD-30s running at 24V?

[AmuseMe]

Thread Revival:

I am needing to do this for my Iwaki RD-30 and external unit. I'll be mounting it, along with the MeanWell PSU to a bamboo hardwood board. I am just curious as to what I all need to do this BigSlappy Mod :crack:

As far as I am aware, I need:
- 1" PVC 90-degree piece
- 3/4" NPT tap (to tap a reservoir bottom)
- 3/4" NPT threaded end to affix to the PVC bend (with PVC Cement?)
- A thick O-Ring
- What sizes of tubing?

Cody

[AmuseMe]

Just finished hooking up my PVC elbow to the inlet. I have a chunk of 5/8 x 3/4 tubing, then 3/4 x 1" on that, then a big fat piece of tube connecting that to my PVC. Everything is clamped with nice big Stainless worm clamps. I'll post pictures tomorrow or the day after of the Iwaki RD-30. Just waiting on my Meanwell PSU's and looking for an OG EK 400

[RedRaider]

That's the right tubing:up:

The U BigSlappy used was electrical conduit.

Let me see what I can do about that EK res...:hmm:

[KaptCrunch]

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glue to pipe then thread to match your rez

note:or use my dual hose trick to a barb fitting on rez

[AmuseMe]

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glue to pipe then thread to match your rez

note:or use my dual hose trick to a barb fitting on rez

Thats what I got all ready. It's cemented onto the 90-degree elbow going to the pump. The old school EK res's are much nicer than the new X2 ones though.

[KaptCrunch]

i hope that 90 isn't a true 90 but a long gentle one

[AmuseMe]

i hope that 90 isn't a true 90 but a long gentle one

Long and gentle the whole way... no homo. It's just like the one that Myke did

[cheapskate]

Wouldn't it be better to make a bigass pvc tank, and have a stock inlet tapped into it for the EK res. -Kinda just use the EK for an air trap/topper in other words.

I've never touched an iwaki, but I can imagine a scrawny EK tube draining in half a second. -big res=easier air bleed.

[RedRaider]

RES-400 is fine, I wouldn't put a smaller size on my RD-30's, though Ballz0r had been running his with a smaller EK tube res for years.

I got ZERO vortex with my BigSlappy setup, though look at the fucking mess CyberDruid had with his two res concoction.:rofl:

The main concern with the RD-30 is how you feed it. The method show by BigSlappy is pretty fucking nice. Yet Martin310, NaeKuh and CyberDruid did it incorrectly by feeding it with 1/2" ID tubing. They were starving the pump and causing cavitation. It's why I believe Martin310's test data to be flawed. He did not feed that RD-30 properly.

During our upcoming rad testing, CrazyJoe will be doing a little RD-30 testing for us.:crack:

[cpufrost]

Why would anyone use 1/2" ID tubing/hose on the suction side of an RD30? The standard slip fitting is not that size.

Oh wait you're talking about those guys...

[AmuseMe]

It should be good to go. I just need an EK400 now. Got the matching tap to thread out the res all ready to go. Just need to attach my two boards together and I'll have the station :frankenstein:

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[scraps]

Why would anyone use 1/2" ID tubing/hose on the suction side of an RD30? The standard slip fitting is not that size.

Oh wait you're talking about those guys...

:rofl:

Looking fucking awesome AmuseMe

[cpufrost]

During our upcoming rad testing, CrazyJoe will be doing a little RD-40 testing for us.:crack:

Fuck testing, I want to buy the damn thing NOW! :coke:

[RedRaider]

Fuck testing, I want to buy the damn thing NOW! :coke:

Sorry to get you all excited brother, that was an iPhone typo while driving on I-10 back from Anahauc today.

[cpufrost]

Sorry to get you all excited brother, that was an iPhone typo while driving on I-10 back from Anahauc today.

Damn it!

:shit:

[RedRaider]

cpufrost...

You ever price a RD-40 ?

[cpufrost]

cpufrost...

You ever price a RD-40 ?

I have not.

[RedRaider]

Problem with the distributor for Texas was the minimum quantity required for them to order the RD-30's.

If we could get 20 FIRM and I mean FIRM commitments, I could order them, FOB Houston of course. If I get a chance later this week I'll go by and request a quote.:up:

[cpufrost]

They need 20 min for any Iwaki pump or just RD40?

[RedRaider]

They need 20 min for any Iwaki pump or just RD40?

That was the RD30, I am sure it will apply to the RD-40 as well.

[AmuseMe]

*** All Credit To BigSlappy This is his invention.***
I made my own guide to further explain BigSlappy's great invention/ idea.

Tubing You Will Need
- 5/8 x 3/4 (aprx. 1")
- 3/4 x 1 (aprx. 1")
- 1 x 1-1/4 (arpx. 4")

PVC Parts/ Pieces You Will Need
- 3/4" PVC 90-degree
- 3/4" NPT PVC Male Thread
- PVC Cement
- Thick, Quality O-ring

Other
- 2x Heavy Duty Hose Clamps
- Krylon Fusion or other multi-surface paint

Quick picture of the main supplies you will need:
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Step 1: Take the 90-degree PVC conduit, and cut off the bulky end. I find that a heavy duty tube/ PVC cutter works best. I did so for mine, and it cut clean and sharp. No burs, no jagged edges.
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Step 2: Apply the PVC cement as per the instruction on your chosen product to the 3/4" male thread. This is the end that goes to the reservoir.
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Step 3: While the threaded piece is curing/ setting you can cut your hose to shape.


a.) Cut the 5/8" x 3/4" tube to the same length as the inlet on the Iwaki RD-30 and place it on the inlet. The end of the tube should be flush with the inlet of the pump.

b.) Cut the 3/4" x 1" tube to the same length as the 5/8" x 3/4" and place it overtop of the 5/8" x 3/4" tube. You should no have a layer of tubing overtop of the inlet.

c.) cut the 1" x 1-1/4" tube at aprx. 4" in length. Place one end overtop of the 3/4" x 1" tube, You should now have three layers of tube around the inlet, with only the 1" x 1-1/4" overhanging.

This picture is an expanded view. Showing that all three tubes will fit snugly Also, these are not cut to the right length, they are just showing the concept..
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Step 4: Clamp that shit down - tight. Not too tight so you break anything, but you want it to hold. You finished product should look like this:
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***DONT FORGET THE ORING ON THE THREADED PART GOING TO THE RES***

PS: It's good to use shit made in North America :crack:
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[Tiny]

EK-Multioption RES X2 - 400 Basic is in stock at sidewinder (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/ekresx2400ba.html) right now.