Study Claims "Nikon Rules, Canon Sucks"

[RedRaider]

Study Claims "Nikon Rules, Canon Sucks"



If you want a premium point and shoot go with Canon, but if you want a DSLR go with Nikon. Wait a second, don't start cursing just now, because it's only a study. And a strange one too, I might add.

According to the J.D. Power and Associates 2007 Digital Camera Usage and Satisfaction Study released today, the Canon PowerShot SD series ranks highest in the premium point and shoot segment, the Casio Exilim Zoom series ranks highest in the ultra slim segment, the Fujifilm Finepix F series leads the point and shoot segment and the Nikon D series ranks highest among digital single lens reflex (DSLR) models.


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In each segment, four factors are measured to determine customer satisfaction: picture quality, performance, operation, appearance and styling. Here are the conclusions: "The Fujifilm Finepix F series ranks highest in the point and shoot segment with an index score of 749 on a 1,000-point scale, performing particularly well in all drivers of customer satisfaction. The Kodak Z series and Canon PowerShot A series follow in the segment rankings with index scores of 744 and 739, respectively.

Among premium point and shoot cameras, the Canon PowerShot SD series ranks highest with 829 points. The series performs particularly well in all factors that drive overall satisfaction. The Panasonic DMC-FZ series (785) and Kodak Z series (783) follow in the segment.

Study results for DSLRs:

In the ultra slim segment, the Casio Exilim Zoom series leads with 802 points, performing particularly well in operation as well as appearance and styling. The Canon PowerShot SD series (796) and the Kodak V series (787) follow in the segment.

With an index score of 822, the Nikon D Series leads the DSLR segment, receiving notably high ratings from customers in all four factors."

The point and shoot department is not as interesting as the DSLR one, especially since Canon, whose market share is considerably higher than Sony's, Pentax's and Olympus', appears to have the worst image quality. Canon's cameras are not perfect, that's for sure, but picture quality is one domain where the company actually excels in.

Nikon's score is also interesting. Judging from their study, it would seem that Nikon makes out of this world DSLRs while the rest have disappointing contraptions that can barely be switched on.

Basically, Canon is for brokedick :nigmel: losers who can not afford quality Nikon glass...:bird:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Strange-Study-Claims-Nikon-Rules-Canon-Sucks-64156.shtml (http://news.softpedia.com/news/Strange-Study-Claims-Nikon-Rules-Canon-Sucks-64156.shtml)

[NeverGive7]

We all know how this really goes.....

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[Jtrain]

Wow look at that evaluation from 2007 how about we get a more current one

[RedRaider]

2007...2010... same shit, another year...:rofl:

[mcoffey]

Fuck Cannon PS too...let's see a Cannon PS beat this right here:dick:

That's with my Coolpix P-100, hand held and no flash.... nuff said:D

http://home.comcast.net/~mcoffey22/pwpimages/DSCN0878.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~mcoffey22/pwpimages/DSCN0386.JPG

The originals look even better:up:

Nikon rules...always has, always will.

andyc

[EIGHTLUG]

:hmm: I though this forum wasn't about spreading ignorance?? Brokedick :rofl: Yeah... I see lots of brokedick PRO photographers on the NFL sidelines with HUGE Canon lenses. :shake: One day you'll see the light. But "oh my ISO is better",Yeah keep singing that song.... "I can shoot so much better in the pitch dark"... Yeah dude I see lots of pitch black photography every day. Interesting shit. It's really fucking hot in the streets right now. :jackoff: I just picked up a mag at Barnes and Noble called After Midnight. It's noting but dark shots... Ok, no I didn't... You know why. Because no one fucking cares about that shit. :ROTF: You guys need to get off your knees and quit suckin' Ashton Kutcher's CoolPix pushing dick. I mean SERIOUSLY... Ashton Kutcher is your pitchman... How much more low brow is that company going to go. ....pathetic. Couldn't they find a pro photographer that shoots Nikon, to flaunt their wares???.... Hummm interesting..... :rofl:

[RedRaider]

Let me break it down for you bitches...


Canon = little faster focusing and a tad more frames per second

Nikon = little slower focusing, but MUCH GREATER ACCURACY.



Canon = :nigmel:

Nikon = :htk:

[EIGHTLUG]

or....

Nikon Chosen by people with $$$ and enjoy the highest quality.

Canon Chosen by the :nigmel:'s

[mcoffey]

:hmm: I though this forum wasn't about spreading ignorance?? Brokedick :rofl: Yeah... I see lots of brokedick PRO photographers on the NFL sidelines with HUGE Canon lenses. :shake: One day you'll see the light. But "oh my ISO is better",Yeah keep singing that song.... "I can shoot so much better in the pitch dark"... Yeah dude I see lots of pitch black photography every day. Interesting shit. It's really fucking hot in the streets right now. :jackoff: I just picked up a mag at Barnes and Noble called After Midnight. It's noting but dark shots... Ok, no I didn't... You know why. Because no one fucking cares about that shit. :ROTF: You guys need to get off your knees and quit suckin' Ashton Kutcher's CoolPix pushing dick. I mean SERIOUSLY... Ashton Kutcher is your pitchman... How much more low brow is that company going to go. ....pathetic. Couldn't they find a pro photographer that shoots Nikon, to flaunt their wares???.... Hummm interesting..... :rofl:

Hey now, you can bust on us Nikon users all you want, but ease up on my boy Ashton:nono: He makes me all moist and shit:fag: :rofl:

andyc

[NeverGive7]

Don't know about ya'll but I cum a little everytime I take a look at this shit :D

Thats before taking pics with it :rofl:

http://www.realredraider.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=1227&d=1292364689

[RedRaider]

Nikon and Canon are each primarily lens companies, not camera companies. It's sad to see people buy good cameras and put off-brand lenses on them.


Did you know that Nikon is one of the world's leading makes of professional laboratory microscopes, often beating out Zeiss and Leitz? Nikon also makes the million-dollar lenses and mechanical steppers used in semiconductor manufacture. They have a 37% market share. These lenses and mechanics resolve at 45 nanometers, or less than one-tenth of a wavelength of visible light? That's over 10,000 lines per millimeter!

http://www.nikonprecision.com/


Canon may make their own ICs and image sensors, but for all we know, Canon may use Nikon lenses and steppers to do it! Probably not: Canon also makes steppers and semiconductor photolithography equipment, with a 20% market share.


Making $20,000, $2,000 or $200 lenses for either Canon or Nikon is child's play. Their big stuff sells in the $200,000 to $2,000,000 range. We photographers get to benefit from all of it.


HISTORY:

You have to know the history behind this race to understand it.

Early 1900s

Canon and Nikon have both been around competing with each other since the early 1900s. I'll skip the early days and WWII because you can read it elsewhere.

1970s

My first 35mm SLR camera, bought when I was 11 years old in 1973, was a Minolta. You can see it and its photo quality on my Night Photography page. I upgraded to my dream camera, the Minolta SR-T-102, around 1974.

1980

In 1980 I wanted all my lenses to use filters the same size so I could change them easily while photographing from my mom's small plane. Minolta drove me nuts by using a different filter size every time they restyled their lenses. I bought a Nikon F2AS manual camera and a slew of manual focus lenses. I sold the Minolta gear because I thought Nikon was better.

In 1980 Nikon was the undisputed king of pro 35mm cameras. For the same price as Canon I got what I thought was much better mechanical quality and better access to rental gear. I also thought it was cool to have the same camera used by every other journalist.

I was still too stupid to realize that 1.) people shooting landscapes used 4 x 5 cameras, not 35mm, and that 2.) All cameras in the same format perform the same.

1985

Minolta invented the autofocus SLR in 1985. A few years later Canon and Nikon had them, too. Professionals laughed at the idea.

Nikon AF cameras and lenses were completely compatible with older lenses and cameras. This was good because pros all had many thousands of dollars invested in their manual lenses. It was a no-brainer to buy a new Nikon AF camera since it was compatible with everything. New AF lenses were compatible with manual focus cameras. They still are! Nikon solidified the reason to shoot Nikon as a pro: no one had to start out from scratch again. Going to AF in Nikon was easy.

Nikon AF cameras had motors in the body to focus the lenses mechanically through a small screw in the lens mount. They still do.

Canon designed their AF system from scratch, and used a completely new and incompatible lens mount. The lenses each had their own motors inside them. If you shot Canon you had to throw away all your lenses and bodies and start from scratch. Not good! To go to Canon AF you had to rebuy your entire system with new AF gear.

1990

Pros eventually started using the AF cameras around 1990 and liked them. One teensy-weensy problem around was that Nikon AF cameras couldn't focus fast enough for sports. The Canon cameras worked great. Pros who shot sports dumped their Nikon gear and moved to Canon in droves. Sports shooters still predominantly use Canon for this reason. I was kidding about slow AF being a teeny problem: it's why Nikon lost it's twenty-year lock on the pro journalism market and has never won it back!

Unlike 1980, in the 1990s Canon cameras evolved to be as professional as Nikon. They have competed neck and neck for the same customers ever since.

Nikon's AF speed is as good as Canon today, but no one is going to sell everything and start from scratch without a very good reason.

As a pro you own a lot of gear, all bought at different times. It all needs to work together as a system. Amateurs buy bodies and lenses together, while pros add and delete each body and lens from their systems as it makes sense. Except in the case of total theft, you never get the chance to start over from scratch.

Better AF performance was why sports pros left Nikon in the 1990s. There's never been anything compelling enough since then to get them all to switch back. That's why you see all the white lenses at sports events. Remember, sporting is only part of the photo picture. Landscape photographers have been using 4x5" film for over 100 years and don't show any signs of changing soon. The best ones rarely use Canon or Nikon.

1999

Nikon invents the professional D1, the world's first practical digital SLR. It was $5,000 and had 2.7MP. Nikon became the leader in professional digital.

I bought my first AF Nikon, an F100, and liked it so much I eventually wound up buying all new AF equipment anyway.

2000

Canon introduced their own first DSLR, the consumer D30. It had the same image quality as Nikon's metal D1, but for only $3,000 in plastic. It also had 3MP.

2001

Canon announces the EOS-1D on 25 September 2001. Canon moves ahead of Nikon in the digital arena.

2002 - 2004

Nikon doesn't introduce much, while Canon is very busy. Every time Nikon does announce a new DSLR, Canon outdoes them the next week.

2005 - 2006

Nikon's D70 was my favorite over the better-built Canon 20D. I preferred the D70's faster operation, specifically, the D70's immediate access to white balance trims, needed for every shot, over having to go into menus on the 20D.

In 2006 Canon tweaked the firmware in the 20D and called it a 30D, which I find uncompetitive with the D200. What were they thinking? Nikon leapfrogged them with the D200. The D200 eclipsed anything Canon had done, including the Canon 5D which cost three times as much.

I had always admired the Canon 28 - 135 IS lens. Nikon had nothing similar. Nikon introduced the spectacular 18 - 200 VR for digital, which eclipses the earlier Canon 28 - 135.

[RedRaider]

Don't know about ya'll but I cum a little everytime I take a look at this shit :D

Thats before taking pics with it :rofl:

http://www.realredraider.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=1227&d=1292364689

Awesome family portrait.:up:

I'm just not able to comprehend why Canon lenses have the layout they do? It's just so different from Nikon.

[XMT_Systems]

Did somebody say Leica M8.2? :crack:

[Kuro]

Yeah I've been looking at getting a Leica my Uni has Nikon DSLRs I can borrow so I don't need anything too high end.

[XMT_Systems]

Yeah I've been looking at getting a Leica my Uni has Nikon DSLRs I can borrow so I don't need anything too high end.

Get ready to spend about $5k on an M8 or M8.2... $27k if you opt for the S2 :crack:

I rented a M8 a couple years ago and fell in love with the thing immediately. Wish I could afford to buy an 8.2 though.... soon I'll have one... soon

[OptimusPrime]

makes me feel even better about my trusty little D40 :o

[alpha_prime]

Hey mcoffey, is that a picture of Brugges?

[mcoffey]

Yep, sure is.

andyc

[coolmiester]

And to think you didn't want to go at one point :)

[alpha_prime]

I live like 20 km from Bruges... kinda funny to see pictures on RRR :). Did you enjoy your trip? I hardly ever visit it anymore, too boring :D

[mcoffey]

I live like 20 km from Bruges... kinda funny to see pictures on RRR :). Did you enjoy your trip? I hardly ever visit it anymore, too boring :D

Oh, I absolutely loved it. As with a lot of the stuff in Europe, they have a bridge in Bruges we floated under that was built before they new my country was a land mass:fact: We spent most of the day there, and didn't get to see or do half what I wanted to do.

I was on a business trip in Amsterdam, and we took a day trip to Bruges on the train. First time in Europe for me, so I had a blast.

Great place you live in:up:

andyc

[kinghong1970]

Ken Rockwell is the Chuck Norris of photography

* Ken Rockwell's camera has similar settings to ours, except his are:
P[erfect]
Av[Awesome Priority]
Tv[Totally Awesome Priority]
M[ajestic]

* Ken Rockwell doesn't color correct. He adjusts your world to match his.

* Sure, Ken Rockwell deletes a bad photo or two. Other people call these Pulitzers.

* Ken Rockwell doesn't adjust his DOF, he changes space-time.

* Circle of confusion? You might be confused. Ken Rockwell never is.

* Ken Rockwell doesn't wait for the light when he shoots a landscape - the light waits for him.

* Ken Rockwell never flips his camera in portrait position, he flips the earth

* Ken Rockwell ordered an L-lens from Nikon, and got one.

* Ken Rockwell is the only person to have photographed Jesus; unfortunately he ran out of film and had to use a piece of cloth instead.

* When Ken Rockwell brackets a shot, the three versions of the photo win first place in three different categories.

* Before Nikon or Canon releases a camera they go to Ken and they ask him to test them, the best cameras get a Canon sticker and the less good get a Nikon sticker.

* Once Ken tested a camera, he said "I can't even put Nikon on this one". That is how Pentax was born.

* Rockwellian policy isn't doublethink - Ken doesn't even need to think once

* Ken Rockwell doesn't use flash ever since the Nagasaki incident.

* Only Ken Rockwell can take pictures of Ken Rockwell; everyone else would just get their film overexposed by the light of his genius.

* Ken Rockwell wanted something to distract the lesser photographers, and lo, there were ducks.

* Ken Rockwell is the only one who can take self-portraits of you.

* Ken Rockwell's nudes were fully clothed at the time of exposure.

* Ken Rockwell once designed a zoom lens. You know it as the Hubble SpaceTelescope.

* When Ken unpacks his CF card, it already has masterpieces on it.

* Rockwell portraits are so lifelike, they have to pay taxes.

* On Ken Rockwell's desktop, the Trash Icon is really a link to National Geographic Magazine.

* Ken Rockwell spells point-and-shoot "h-a-s-s-e-l-b-l-a-d".

* When Ken Rockwell went digital, National Geographic nearly went out of business because he was no longer phyically discarding photos.

* For every 10 shots that Ken Rockwell takes, 11 are keepers.

* Ken Rockwell's digital files consist of 0's, 1's AND 2's.

* Ken Rockwell never focus, everything moves into his DoF.

* Ken Rockwell's shots are so perfect, Adobe redesigned photoshop for him: all it consists of is a close button.

* The term tripod was coined after his silhouette.

* Ken Rockwell never produces awful work, only work too advanced for the viewer.

* A certain brand of high-end cameras was named after people noticed the quality was a lot "like a" rockwell.

* Ken Rockwell isn't the Chuck Norris of photography; Chuck Norris is the Ken Rockwell of martial arts.

* Ken Rockwell never starts, he continues.

[NeverGive7]

Kinghong1970 = EPIC WIN :champ:

* Before Nikon or Canon releases a camera they go to Ken and they ask him to test them, the best cameras get a Canon sticker and the less good get a Nikon sticker.

:rofl: :rofl:

[RedRaider]

Comparing Nikon Supertelephoto Lenses

[RedRaider]

Nikon AF-S 105mm f/2.8G IF-ED VR Micro Hands-on Review

[NeverGive7]

How do you do a photoshoot @ 40fps ???? :crack: :crack: :crack:

YouTube - Behind the Scenes with Kelly Kline - Tapped Out!

Or lets slow it down a hair to 30fps :rofl:

YouTube - 30fps con Canon EOS-1D Mark III

[RedRaider]

:bird: that nigger in the vid above




NIKON ... FTMFW



NIKKOR Nano Crystal Coat Lenses

[RedRaider]

Nikon Cameras Chosen for Use in Outer Space

[RedRaider]

D7000:Benevolent Mischief

[XMT_Systems]

I've been a Canon junkie ever since I started taking photos with my old hand-me-down AE1 that I got when I was 14. Since then I've had at least 7 other Canons, including the 1V with 45 point autofocus and blistering 10fps speed :crack:. I finally made the switch to digital in 2005, though I still go back and shoot film quite a bit (R.I.P. Kodachrome).

I haven't upgraded my digi slr (40D :feser:) for a long time now, but after comparing the 7D with the Nikon D7000, I might actually become a Nikon convert. :shake: The D7000's 39 point AF (amongst the other bells and whistles) is so close to the 45 point AF of my 1V without having to spend $7k on a 1Ds Mk. III (full frame :crack:), and the 5mp difference is negligible. Still though, for the money I believe it is a much better option today than the 7D (not to mention that the noise at high iso on the Nikon is much less than the 7D's).

For carry/pocket cameras, there still isn't much from Nikon though that can come close to my 3 year old Canon G9 (which I like even better than the new G12).

Now I just have to decide whether I'm going to sell off some of my Canon lenses to pay for new Nikon lenses :hmm:

[NeverGive7]

I've been a Canon junkie ever since I started taking photos with my old hand-me-down AE1 that I got when I was 14. Since then I've had at least 7 other Canons, including the 1V with 45 point autofocus and blistering 10fps speed :crack:. I finally made the switch to digital in 2005, though I still go back and shoot film quite a bit (R.I.P. Kodachrome).

I haven't upgraded my digi slr (40D :feser:) for a long time now, but after comparing the 7D with the Nikon D7000, I might actually become a Nikon convert. :shake: The D7000's 39 point AF (amongst the other bells and whistles) is so close to the 45 point AF of my 1V without having to spend $7k on a 1Ds Mk. III (full frame :crack:), and the 5mp difference is negligible. Still though, for the money I believe it is a much better option today than the 7D (not to mention that the noise at high iso on the Nikon is much less than the 7D's).

For carry/pocket cameras, there still isn't much from Nikon though that can come close to my 3 year old Canon G9 (which I like even better than the new G12).

Now I just have to decide whether I'm going to sell off some of my Canon lenses to pay for new Nikon lenses :hmm:

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[XMT_Systems]

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn281/nevergive7/Private/tu6si21k.jpg

lol, will do :up:

[mcoffey]

D7000 will definitely be my next D-SLR...the D50 has been awesome, and love it, but time for an upgrade.

andyc

[runnin17]

D7000 will definitely be my next D-SLR...the D50 has been awesome, and love it, but time for an upgrade.

andyc

I can attest that the D7000 is a beast of a DSLR. I was lucky and got it from best buy right before the release date for $1100 for the kit. Came with a 18-105mm lens. It is an okay lens, but I am itching to get a nice prime lens for portrait and indoor shots.

[XMT_Systems]

I can attest that the D7000 is a beast of a DSLR. I was lucky and got it from best buy right before the release date for $1100 for the kit. Came with a 18-105mm lens. It is an okay lens, but I am itching to get a nice prime lens for portrait and indoor shots.

That's all well and good, but who the hell are you? I see that you're new here, so I'll extend a big RRTech Welcome, but :bird::htfu: and get your ass over to the new members (http://www.realredraider.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=110) section to introduce yourself. Also go to the "Rules to live by (http://www.realredraider.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=9)" thread. Read it, learn it, know it :bat:.

Once again, WELCOME!

[RedRaider]

Jarid Polin (aka' FroKnows) that Canon sucks....


FroKnowsNikon

[NeverGive7]

Death of an 300mm L lens !!!!

Viciously slaughtered with a hammer !!!!

YouTube - World's First Canon 300mm L Lens Cup (real L lens!)

[RedRaider]

This video proves that Canon users are flaming homosexuals...:fag:

Canon v.s Nikon ( Romeo and Juliet )

[NeverGive7]

How dare he rub that 1DMk3 up against that other piece of shit at :20 :shake: