GIGABYTE H55 miniITX - Results

[1Day]

Post only your results here please. If you wish you can also submit on HWBOT.

4000 MHz Stage Time to beat is.

TaPaKaH - 8min 47sec 453ms (http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=1039219&title=Highest%20score%20of%20TaPaKaH)


RRTech log.
1. 9min 03sec 078ms 1Day
2. 9min 8sec 485ms 0xygenthief
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Lets get benching boys and girls.

[Overclocking101]

dude I seriously wish I had one of these boards!

[1Day]

I am still waiting for mine to be shipped.

[Overclocking101]

im seriously starting to think my board is the issue not the cpu, it's real dodgy, sometimes it oc's on low voltage like a mofo then the next day it's like :bird: im not ocing at all!!!!! very frustrating, im an inch to ditching it and going with no board.

[0xygenthief]

Ordered my mosfet ramsinks today. Should get here before the weekend.

I plan on loading a trimmed down XP os onto my 8GB flash drive. This will allow me to store the OS in its entirety so I can quickly recreate superior tweaks for the benchmark.

We need to consolidate our tweaks here so that we can all benefit during this competition.

I should have my first phase 1 benchmark completed this weekend.

I ran through the benchmark using my current setup on the rig and laughed at the 10+minute run time! This was, of course, with a 3.2 Ghz overclock not 4 Ghz. I was also using 1333 DDR3 ram as well. The run this weekend will host the DDR3 2000 CAS 6 RAM I use in my gaming rig.

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of XPLite?

[1Day]

If you have a copy of Windows XP pro you can use a application called nlite that will allow you to cut it down to the bare bones for benching. I will try and get you a copy of my benching OS ini file. You can use that to make your own. You will need to add your own XP key or just use the OS for 30 days as trial and then bomb it.

[0xygenthief]

No worries on the XP key front, got legit keys even!

Just post your ini file and I will give it a shot.

[1Day]

Well here is my first attempt. Just got the motherboard and 530 CPU.

9.46.363

Using the stock Intel cooler and can easily get 4 GHz.

OS is Win7 and it is a full install - looking to cut my time down to under 9 mins @ 4GHz.

I think I have some leeway because I am only useing a single stick of ram at this point plus I am a bit short of the 4 GHz limit. But happy with this anyhow.

http://a.imageshack.us/img227/2969/4ghz946343.png

[Overclocking101]

that is good man kick some ass bro!

[0xygenthief]

Ran through SuperPi 32m for the first time at 4 Ghz today. Still above the 10 minute mark though. (10m 9.789s)

No screenshot since this time will only bring ridicule. I plan on installing XP Pro 64 bit on a spare hard drive and trying out all the tweaks we have listed in our SuperPi 32m thread.

I was also using some slow ass 1333 ram. gonna stick my CAS6 2000 ram and see how I do.

[1Day]

Mate 10 min 9 sec is a pretty good time. Trust me on that.

You have to understand the lads who are currently top 5 in the competition oh HWBOT are hard core bencher's. They are freezing their ram to get the times they are doing. This competition for us is about having fun and and learning about stuff - nothing more and nothing less.

[0xygenthief]

MOTHER FUCKING WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Installed XP 32bit, did all the tweaks, installed my good ram and BEAT THE SHIT out of SUPER PI 32m!!!!

First run was 9m 12.877 seconds!

Since Super Pi runs better on consecutive runs we will see where I end up. I am unsure I can drop 12 or more seconds off but we will see.

Also I got my OC to run at EXACTLY 4.0 Ghz, do we have to be below 4 Ghz or can we be right on the money?

:bluegene:

I'll post my screenshots once I get my best run and submit to hwbot.

[1Day]

Screen-shot or it didn't happen. ;)


Nice one, now that is a good result. :monkeyfuck:

[0xygenthief]

Trying to get better results by modifying my OC with higher timings and greater throughput. 7-10-7-28 timings added 20 seconds to my run even though I had the RAM jacked all the way up to DDR3 2400 speeds!

There's gotta be a way to shave a few more seconds off. I only have one core running, hyperthreadding disabled, all the power management stuff disabled, and, of course, the turbo boost shit disabled in BIOS.

Like I said before, running XP Pro 32-bit with SP3 slipstreamed. No patches applied. No drivers installed, period. Drive was defragged a few times. Ran the copywazza, set Maxmem in boot.ini to 600, did the rest of the tweaks and the best I could muster was 9m 11.9s.

Granted, that's good enough for 6th place currently. But I wan't to break 9 minutes!

Advice? Will enabling a second core help out any?

I am gearing up to install XP Pro 64-bit at the moment, to see how well it does.

[Grnfinger]

Google "eram" ther are free copies around it will help alot

Here is a little guide to help you out on SuperPI
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If possible, you want to use Windows Server 2003 (any version). XP Pro is fine too.

If you're using Server 2003, you need to enable themes.

Start->run->services.msc

Go to the themes service and set the Startup Type to Automatic, hit start and when its done hit OK.

Then go to your display properties, and select Windows XP Style in the Appearance tab.

For XP, you'll need to turn LargeSystemCache on. Do this by going to System Properties, go to the Advanced tab and open the settings for Performance. Go to the Advanced tab again and change the button from "Programs" to "System Cache."

Also, set the page file size to between 48 and 96 MB.

For both oses, if its a benching partition, maxmem helps a little bit.
To set it, open up your boot.ini and next to the OS you're using, add /MAXMEM=512. This fools Windows into only addressing 512MB of memory. We don't know why it helps, but it does. For a daily os sometimes it can cause problems.

When running SuperPi, it helps a little to have two instances open. So make two SuperPi folders. Open one up and minimize it. Open the other one up and set priority to High in Task Manager. Then rerun several times. Some of you might have noticed that only certain "steps" of times are possible in SuperPi. e.g. you can't get any time in between 12.578 and 12.563. If you rerun enough times, you can often get one step slower.

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Now, for 32M there are some added levels of complexity. Everything above applies, but additionally, copy-waza is absolutely crucial. This tweak refers to copying a large file between two partitions on your hard drive. I found best results just north of 5 GB, and copying to the partition containing SuperPi.

One little score booster is a ram drive. In the end, this only helps half a second or so, but if you need that extra edge, it can help. I've attached the Japanese ERAM software. You install it by adding new hardware in control panel and then pointing it to the win2k folder. I don't know Japanese so I can't explain much, but inside the zip file is a screenshot on how to configure it by the SuperPi legend fredyama. If using this, put SuperPi on the ram drive it creates instead, but still copy the large file on your hard drive's partitions.

I've been using a new tweak that gives me around 4-5 sec better times than wazza and maxmem alone. I'm loading Paintshop Pro 4, then assigning affinity on Pi to cpu 0 and psp & explorer to CPU 1. Then I call up a pic in psp and resample it to a new size. Then I run wazza. By manipulating the size of the picture, I can dial in an exact free memory size when I run pi. I've found about 405-415mb free memory is best with 408mb being ideal. If you try it, you need to make sure to be very procedural about what you do-- establish an order of what you do and follow it exactly. Any thing you do differently will change the resulting free mem size. It takes rebooting the machine several times and fiddling with the pic size to dial in the exact free mem you want.

[0xygenthief]

Wow, now that's in-depth!

From what you wrote, I take it I should probably enable 2 of my 4 cores for SuperPi. Though aside from assigning a high or realtime priority to the app I am unsure how to tie an app to a specific core. Could you explain this a bit more? Please forgive my ignorance in this area.

I have been doing my own copywazza with a 4GB file. do you do the copywazza thing before each run when you are trying to improve on a single run, i.e. between runs not between tweaks.

I can try a larger sized file and see how that works. I have been using a Maxmem of 600, I'll try 512 to see if it helps any.

As for the psp trick, way over my head at the moment. Not to mention the fact that I don't have a copy.

I'll try these few tweaks this evening and share my findings. At the same time I am going to install XP 64-bit overnight. I'll give W2K3 an install tomorrow. I have 4 spare drives I can work with so no worries there.

[Overclocking101]

oxygenthief remember when the team first started and you said you were unsure you could contribute a whole hell of alot?? well guess what motherfucker your kicking some ass man! even 6th in a comp like this is damn good as 1DAY said. shit like this is what will put rrtech hwbot team on the map. I didnt know 32bit would be that fast but shit maybe ill install that one and tweak with it. if any you guys need an iso image, I have on of XP-64, Vista 64, and win7 64 but you will need your own keys though i dont do cracked o/s's and shit, I think i may have XP 32 as well laying around somewhere

[0xygenthief]

Just submitted my score. With Grnfinger's help I was able to slice off a few more seconds. Not enough to overtake the guys in 4th and 5th but just 3 seconds away now!

Anyway here is my screenshot and the link to hwbot showing my meager 3 points in the competition.

http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af329/0xygenthief/SuperPi32mRun4.jpg

http://hwbot.org/competition/gbt_h55_mitx?tab=stage 1

[0xygenthief]

Thanks for the offer OC101, but I have all the necessary OS disks and keys. MSDN is very helpful that way.

[Overclocking101]

dude is there any way you can change that ram to 6-6-6-24-80is or less-1T?? maybe a bit more volts?? that will shave a few seconds off for sure

[ballz0r]

Nice scores guys... Makes me wana get one

[1Day]

Scores updated.

Come on OC101 you post a score mate. I will be benching today, no way my ram will get down to C6 :D ever. So will do what I can with what I have.

[Tiny]

Has any one tried running in Linux? Its suppose to be 25% faster.

[1Day]

Against the rules. Has to be run in a Windows based OS - HWBOT rules.

[Tiny]

I was just looking on the forum and I saw some thing about things where in the works to make 2 dif scoring groups but hadn't done it yet. The only reason I brought it up was because I thought it might still be ok.

I found this later tho. Link (http://hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=763) That kinda explained it.

[Grnfinger]

Just submitted my score. With Grnfinger's help I was able to slice off a few more seconds. Not enough to overtake the guys in 4th and 5th but just 3 seconds away now!

Anyway here is my screenshot and the link to hwbot showing my meager 3 points in the competition.



http://hwbot.org/competition/gbt_h55_mitx?tab=stage 1

nice results, trfc ( row refresh cycle time ) is a setting you'll want to tweak on the ram. lower is better but there is a point were stability goes out the window.

[Overclocking101]

if I had a gigabyt mini itx board id be slammin some scores up but i just cant afford ord one i had to replace my main P55, but im getting sooo much more out of my chip now that I switched boards and all the while using lower voltages.

[Grnfinger]

what board did you go to?

[Overclocking101]

Asus P7P55D Deluxe. its crazy with EVGA you need like 1.45VTT or higer but this board is rock stable with 1.17

[1Day]

Had a chance to do a bit of benching this evening - nothing fancy still on the stock Intel Cooler so it is a bit of a struggle to complete the benchmark. Heat is not my friend right now.

9min 21sec 750ms

http://a.imageshack.us/img814/2272/9m21750.png


And yes I know - I better :htfu:

Cheap Coolermaster case and stock Intel cooler. :D

http://a.imageshack.us/img841/8853/dsc05958y.jpg

Had to pull the motherboard that usually lives in that case out - my daughter is seriously pissed at me. It is her PC most of the time.

[scraps]

It looks so funny in that case.

[1Day]

Sad more like it. Can not believe how fucking small that board is. And to think that is is clocking a quad-core at 4Ghz is just mind blowing.

[Grnfinger]

ahh it looks like a little baby, in 10 years it might grow up

seriously I think you need better air flow :rofl:

[1Day]

http://krapps.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/FlipTheBird.jpg

Do you think I should water it?

:D

[Grnfinger]

just get a spray bottle and mist it every now and then it should keep it cool

[1Day]

just get a spray bottle and mist it every now and then it should keep it cool

:D:D:D

But will it grow? Maybe I should put some 2:3:2 plant feed in the case with it.:p

Really kicks ass for such a tiny mobo.

[Grnfinger]

they are impressive , I've been trying to resist buying the board and another 655K

[0xygenthief]

So can anyone tell me what the best settings are for the OCX SPI tweaker tool? I got within a second of my best time, which I obtained by performing a manual wazza. The best settings I have found are 128 file size with 512 wazza size. I am willing to try other sizes, just thought I would ask before randomly choosing numbers...

[1Day]

Sorry I have no idea - I prefer to do it manually I just posted the thing here for who ever wanted to use it.

I also think it is hardware dependant, by that I mean some combinations like one file size and others prefer another. It is really all trial and error.

[0xygenthief]

This weekend I plan on installing my mosfet heatsinks and trying to make a run or two for the second phase of the competition. With two cores disabled it should run like a 655K though I doubt I will be able to hang anywhere near the guys using LN2. My hope is to approach the 5 Ghz mark, 4.8 would be nice but I am guessing 4.6 will be the highest I can obtain with this chip.

I thought about dunking my corsair H50 in a small bucket of ice water to eek out a few extra mhz. Ghetto, I know. But it's all in fun!

I thought about putting this thing under water completely but the space in my Q08 case is just not enough. I am hard pressed just to find room for the Corsair H50 tubes, and they are only 1/4 inch. Plus funds are quickly running low this month after a speeding ticket and a wife that has no concept of budgeting...

[1Day]

http://a.imageshack.us/img638/9014/913391.png

9min13sec391

Getting there Oxygenthief :D :D

[0xygenthief]

WOW, really good time in comparison to mine! My Ram is faster and I got a full 4000 Mhz as opposed to your 3990! Awesome!

What OS tweaks did you settle with?

[1Day]

So far I use the same ini as I sent you - no OS tweaks other than that. I defrag like 5 times before I run the bench. And I am playing with my ram a bit. Do not want to use my main benching ram for this competition. They just cost to much for me to mess them up.

And I use a 5Gb copy wazza D -> C then C -> D wait one minute and press enter.

That is it

[1Day]

http://a.imageshack.us/img269/4201/mem908406.png

9min08sec406

Think I got there. :p

[0xygenthief]

Great Job 1Day!

[1Day]

I think that you should be able to break 9 min barrier. Your ram are way way better than mine. What is the max BLK your CPU will do?

[0xygenthief]

I can't remember. I didn't try to push the BCLK too hard for this phase since 4 Ghz was the max. I tried maxing out my RAM throughput at the default timings though. I know I got it above 200 for sure.

Do you think by maxing out my BCLK that the resulting Uncore speed increase will offer better results?

[1Day]

Yes for sure - that is why I sacrificed the CPU MHz speed for the BLK. It made the difference as you see.

If you can get to 222 BLK then you would get to about 8.50.650 with your stock ram settings.

[0xygenthief]

I'll give it a shot tonight then!

[0xygenthief]

If you can get to 222 BLK then you would get to about 8.50.650 with your stock ram settings.

That's a very precise estimate there buddy. Why not 8.50.658? :p

[1Day]

It is all about maths - maths is my thing. LOL :D

Plus there are only certain combinations of last three numbers that come up. So ...

[0xygenthief]

I seriously doubt I will able to get close to the 8:50 mark. The timings on the ram for the top guys are all 6-6-6. My ram has that god aweful 9 RAS to CAS timing. Not to mention it's 2T not 1T like the Corsair Dominators. I "may" be able to break 9 minutes but not much farther past that.

[1Day]

Pro had his BLK at 235 that is why his time is so good. Yeah his ram is pretty cherry picked too but we are not shooting for first place we are shooting for the best we can do.

If we get some extra points that is a bonus. The whole thing is about us having fun, and I am having a whole heap of fun I must say. :coke::coke: This budget way of benching is way more fun than the expensive high end stuff.

I just have to :htfu: on my benching technique. Going to try some runs with OS tweaks now.

[0xygenthief]

I agree, this is fun. I only wish they had subdivisions representative of budget constraints. Something like consolation awards for fastest time with water, air, DICE, LN2 etc... I think you would draw more people from the budget ranks into the second phase this way.

Tonight I am going to try to Up my BCLK to 220 or 235 if possible to see if I can improve my time. If I am not getting good results then I will hold off till this weekend and reinstal XP using the file you gave me.

After that the only thing I know to do is try and tweak my ram timings.

I only wish I had a Kingpin Dragon for the second phase...

[1Day]

I am not even worrying about the second part of the comp. That is just way off what I want to do. I am trying to get below 9min. That is my goal. Have a 9.7 so far :D

[1Day]

http://a.imageshack.us/img704/6746/907266.png

9min 07sec 266ms


I will break that fucking 9 Min mark. But not tonight. Now I go sleep and bench again on the weekend.

So close.

http://a.imageshack.us/img697/9537/903078.png

[0xygenthief]

Got my BCLK up to 210 but it didn't improve my time. I couldn't reach 220, my guess is because of cooling. So I plan on giving the high BCLK approach another try this weekend. Going to dunk my rad in ice water to see if that helps me reach the 220 BCLK. I would assume that without LN2 or DICE that 235 is out of the question.

[Overclocking101]

you have an air conditioner?? also what does the board have for oc settings?? ie skews amplitude controls etc?? those help bclck a ton

[1Day]

Aircon? No this is England we do not have air-conditioners at all.

All my benching is on air, I do not even have water right now. Need a pump still.

And yes you can get high BLK with air, it all depends on the CPU I guess. What motherboard bios are you using. F2 has a BLK wall. You seem to have hit a very similar BLK wall as I have.

But if you can get to 210 x19 your ram speed will be much higher and with your timings it will be really fast and help your score big time.

[0xygenthief]

I am using the latest beta bios.

[1Day]

Hmm then you will have to try with the ice water thing on the Rad.

Why did you ask about the aircon?

[1Day]

Front page updated

[Overclocking101]

well it will keep temps on air lower i used to use a tube going from the aircon to the heatsink keepig temps in the 10's and 20's max. what about the skews and amplitude controls??

[1Day]

Oh me stupid. I was really tired when I read that and did not quite understand. :D

Still can not get below 9 Min. Get close but that is not enough I want that bloody sub-nine minute run.

:cussing:

:htfu::htfu::htfu::htfu::htfu:

[1Day]

How is this for a strange Super PI result.

Take a look at the number of 141 ms and how few times the last three numbers are over 500. Very weird. Slow but weird.

http://a.imageshack.us/img828/9043/141x.png

[1Day]

Need help here folks. How the hell do I get under 9 Mins. I have now run the 32Mil benchmark 114 times and the closest I can get is 9.03 and change.


Things I do are.

OS with only 4 services running.
Copy Wazza and Maxmem 600
Affinity and priority set.
Ram 7-9-6-19-1T can not go lower with the Cas7 regardless of how much voltages used.
BLK max I can bench with is seemingly 213
Voltages are like this
VTT - 1.37
CPU - 1.52


Willing to try anything.

I want to get past fucking 9 mil at 4GHz maximum.

[0xygenthief]

I hear ya....

Tried my icy rad trick this weekend and was still unable to make it to 220 bclk. Even with superior ram timings I am still not getting the times you are getting. I honestly have no idea how to break the 9 min barier.

[Hondacity]

nice work 1day and o2thief

can you guys raise your qpi? qpi will definitely help...

o2..whats your vtt? also what is your pcie?

[scraps]

Are you still on stock there 1day?

[1Day]

Scraps in a word yes. :mad::mad:


Hondacity - As to qpi - I am on max AFAIK. But please post your idea on how I can increase it? :confused:

Hell this is so frustrating. Look I know how to get below 9mins with different ram settings, I just do not have want to use those sticks of ram. As it is I am pushing my ram quite hard, it is OEM Geil stuff that is meant to run 9-9-9-30 at 1600Mhz. So you can fill in the blanks as to the volts needed to get it to run 2100MHz at 8-9-7(6)-20(19)-1T some of the time.

:comp1:


Only thing I have not tried is to pump huge voltages into the PCI and max out the VTT. :htfu:

[Overclocking101]

have you tried cpu tweaker and lowering ram subtimings in the o/s?? that will shave off seconds.

[1Day]

Are you still on stock there 1day?



Yeah still on air. Will try and do something about that in the next week.


OC101 - trust me ram is at the very limit. Was the only way I could get my time down to 9.03

It is quite hot (for us) today so no way I can bench at 4 GHz any how, might have to get up at 4 tomorrow morning to bench when it is cooler.

The good news is I was able to RMA my crap i530 CPU. So that is one less waste of money. The i5 750 I have is not good but good enough for a 24/7 system if you know what I mean.

Ah well back to the bench. :D:D

[Hondacity]

orayt got my stuff set first run was shitty lol

2nd run 9:12.xxx

sorry qpi adjust was for clarky...

1day ..can you still adjust tRCd?

[1Day]

Hondacity I will push my ram just that little bit more. Bare in mind that the two sticks are cheap OEM Geil sticks and not really sure they were ever expected to run at 2220MHz.

But what I have managed somehow - again not sure what I did differently - I got my BLK bench stable to 222 X 18 last night. So that should give me sufficient boost to break through 9 min. :D Then again what was stable 12 hours previously does not mean it will be stable next time. Just have to love benching.

[Hondacity]

niceee my setup is aircooling... 9:12 is without wazza..and my ram is sucky... with wazza maybe 6-7 seconds off...then ram maybe 2-3 seconds...

subzero + high bclk might shave off 2-10 seconds..i'm not sure :D

i still have a long way...

[1Day]

9.:12 is spot on for the frequency and reasonable OS/ram/BLK

6 Sec's CW
6 Sec's tight ram
8 Sec's BLK sub-zero

Assuming you have a 860 or better CPU.

Looks like you are good to go. :)

[1Day]

i530 CPU

7.26.800

http://a.imageshack.us/img713/5024/726800.png

[Tiny]

holy crap

[Overclocking101]

wow dude!!! thats fucking nuts!! what in bios settings did you use bro??? and what cooling?? and overall you guys are ranking pretty good man, holding up with some of the top overclockers.!! ha! and a lot of people though for sure that the hwbot team wouldnt take off!!

[1Day]

wow dude!!! thats fucking nuts!! what in bios settings did you use bro??? and what cooling?? and overall you guys are ranking pretty good man, holding up with some of the top overclockers.!! ha! and a lot of people though for sure that the hwbot team wouldnt take off!!


Let us just say that the board was having a fun time of it. NOT :htfu:

http://a.imageshack.us/img840/2193/dsc00001ub.jpg

Mobo got a bit of cold loving from momma and lots of voltage to make the CPU jump through hoops.

7.21.453

http://a.imageshack.us/img443/2730/721453.png


OS XPpro
LS enabled.
Maxmem 600
CW 1.8 GB D>C>D
Ram was all on auto as this was the first run on XP


i3 530 @ 5698MHz


http://a.imageshack.us/img638/9310/20100828172047.png

Second run was always going to be dicy, :D pun intended, just did not have enough Dice left for me to complete. But was looking at a sub 7 min run or 7.02 max. Oh well it was fun while it lasted.

[1Day]

I bloody well won a motherboard as a prize in that contest. :D

Think they were terrified that RRTech would come over and kick some butt if they did not give us something.

[Overclocking101]

nice what board?? so I read you are chick is that true?? this whole time I thought you were a guy?? pretty cool if you ask me! lets give 1DAY a round of applause for kicking some serious ass this competition!!! 5.6GHZ for an i3 is no small feat ill tell you that much right now, they do not like high mhz

[1Day]

Thought you knew that. But I do not let that small detail get in my way of having fun here on the forum and enjoying my sport. And benching is one activity that it does not really matter about shit like that.

The board is a Gigabyte X58 board. Not sure which one, I would guess it would be a cheaper one. But who cares it is another board to play with.

[Overclocking101]

i think its cool not many chicks bench im proud as fuck to have a chick bencher on our team! thats bad ass that you won a board to! was it the gigabyte 1366 they were talking about?? when it comes to looks gigabyte boards fall short but benching they are good at, and for this thats all that really matters.

[1Day]

yeah it will be a 1366 socket board according to the thread. I am cool with that. I can certainly use a few more motherboards.

And Gigabyte boards bench real well for me.