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Langer
01-29-2009, 10:48 AM
I was trying to find the source of that carbon waterblock I just posted when I stumbled across this:
The WayTronX WayCool Carbon Heatsink w/ built in HeatExchanger.
They claim that their heatsink unit has 400W heat capacity.
Thanks to the advanced capability of its architecture, WayCool technology delivered the industry’s first in system 400 Watt CPU cooler vs. typical 300 Watt results. Tests of the technology in an industry CPU cooler solution demonstrate the successful management of the thermal energy from as much as a 400W heat source. The fully self-contained, hermetically-sealed liquid cooling device combines the efficiency of liquid cooling with the safety and convenience of air cooling.
clicky - site (http://www.waytronx.com/about-waycool.aspx)
Refrence Designs:
clicky - 400W CPU Cooler PDF (http://www.waytronx.com/media/17154/refdesignbrief%20u400dt%20cpu%20cooler.pdf)
clicky - 400W CPU/Chipset/Gpu Cooler PDF (http://www.waytronx.com/media/22432/refdesignbrief%20u400nt%20integrated%20cpu%20coole r.pdf)
clicky - 350W GPU Cooler PDF (http://www.waytronx.com/media/22428/refdesignbrief%20u350gx%20gfx%20cooler.pdf)
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How it works:
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Baleful
01-29-2009, 11:04 AM
I think these things are kinda like OCZ's Cryo thing in that there are pictures of it everywhere, but you can't find em. These pictures are almost two years old, very cool concept but they've been working on this forever it seems.
Would be cool if someone here could get some test samples.
Langer
01-29-2009, 11:06 AM
I've just contacted them for exactly that.
I noticed that it's old, but it's certainly not anything like OCZ cryo-Z... that's a phase change unit. This unit uses carbon nanotubes to wick heat from the CPU, I actually found it accidentally when searching though patents for carbon based heat spreaders.
I tired using carbon nano-filament to create a 'carbon rod cooler' but I failed miserably because I couldn't fashion a way to remove the heat from the carbon efficiently. It looks as though WayCool beat me to the punch, (I thought Kayin was going to beat me to it actually).
400W of heat capacity is beyond unreal for a unit that size that, in the end, dissipates the heat passively.
Imagine applying this technology to a radiator sized heat exchanger - you could produce a 'rad' with >1500watts of heat capacity potential.
Baleful
01-29-2009, 11:09 AM
Yeah bad analogy, I was trying to say that it's like the Cryo-Z in that it's been marketed forever, but they never got anywhere.
Langer
01-29-2009, 11:15 AM
I'm not interested in this product at all TBH... I want to learn it's technology - then replicate it on the enthusiast level. If their claims are true... then this is like the holy grail of cooling technology... and we should be able to apply it to our own systems.
Baleful
01-29-2009, 11:17 AM
I'm not interested in this product at all TBH... I want to learn it's technology - then replicate it on the enthusiast level. If their claims are true... then this is like the holy grail of cooling technology... and we should be able to apply it to our own systems.
You hit the nail on the head buddy. The exact same thing I was thinking.
Langer
01-29-2009, 11:21 AM
According to their letter to the shareholders for 2008 - they are doing very well... so they must be selling this stuff somewhere.
2008 Shareholder Letter
September 15, 2008
Dear Shareholder:
2007 was a transformational year at Waytronx. We changed the company’s name; changed the company’s focus; and changed the company’s business model. Thus far in 2008, those changes have resulted in even more positive accomplishments by Waytronx. Your continued commitment and support is of enormous importance to our company. We are working hard to maintain your trust and increase shareholder value. We are all quite proud of the accomplishments achieved during the last several months and have included a list of highlights for your reference:
* In May 2008, pursuant to our acquisition strategy, we acquired CUI, INC., a Tualatin based electronics and electro-mechanical distributor.
* Following that acquisition, the company has seen record revenues for the second quarter of 2008.
* We have secured a number of design wins, including design wins with a large DC motor manufacturer for our proprietary encoder and use of our encoders in medical devices currently being marketed by a world class medical device manufacturer.
* In addition, we have completed the first delivery of our encoder to the largest manufacturer of cash machines in the world and to a leading manufacturer of interactive game furniture.
* During the course of 2008, our relationship with our largest single customer has increased dramatically. We have increased our top line revenue with them while still maintaining our margins. We also have significantly expanded our new product introduction. Finally, our proprietary encoder has secured “A-list” status with that customer, resulting in increased sales and distribution of that exciting new product.
* We have continued our emphasis on acquiring and servicing “Green” and alternative energy customers, including providing power supplies to the solar industry and to such new technologies as ocean wave energy producers.
* In our continued commitment to “Green” initiatives, we have developed a complete line of California Energy Commission (CEC) compliant power supplies and we are pursuing a line of electronic products constructed with bio-degradable plastic casing. These environmentally friendly cases will decompose in landfills unlike current plastic products.
* We are in negotiations with our Japanese suppliers to reduce our costs and to obtain an exclusive agreement for sale and distribution of a new encoder jointly developed with one of our Japanese partners and designed to address a larger target market.
* Operationally and in a continuing effort to streamline our business model, Waytronx has closed its Florida offices; retired substantial 12% debt; sold 23 RediAlert signs, thus creating revenue from obsolete and expensed inventory; and has dramatically reduced its recurring operating expenses.
* Demonstrating the significant synergies of the CUI acquisition, we are in the final stages of obtaining pricing and manufacturing resources to begin production and commercialization of the WayCool CPU cooling solution, which we plan to introduce into the market through our distribution network. We are also in negotiations with one of our Japanese affiliates to introduce the WayCool Technology into their product line.
With a significant total addressable market for our proprietary products and emerging technologies and continuing our emphasis on an aggressive acquisition strategy, Waytronx future looks bright. As always, we recognize our shareholders for their continued support and we look forward to sharing our success with each of you.
Kind regards,
William Clough
William Clough
CEO & President
I also found a DEMO VIDEO (http://www.waytronx.com/news-and-events/waytronx-waycool-technology-video-demonstration.aspx) they say it's marketed as an OCZ HydroJet (http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/437) - which doesn't seem to have seen the light of day.
BiNGE
01-29-2009, 12:12 PM
I am intrigued and somewhat pissed that it has not seen the light of day yet that Danamics LM10 POS actually made it to market. This isn't just exciting because it's a different approach, but their claims seem staggering.
Kayin
01-29-2009, 12:50 PM
I saw this and the carbon waterblock posts. I'm VERY interested, however i'm having some major issues IRL (involving the police and some upset drunks) and I'll not get to play till tomorrow.
Langer, I've learned some more about how to do this, and i'll be glad to give some insight tomorrow.
Odin Eidolon
01-29-2009, 01:18 PM
looks good, but i bet its gonna be very very expensive. from what i understand, the carbon plate could be graphene -a direct sheet of graphene should be better than the carbon nanotubes technology (even if the two things are very similar)-, which is quite expensive
Eternalightwith
01-29-2009, 02:07 PM
booze and swine, never a good combination
I saw this and the carbon waterblock posts. I'm VERY interested, however i'm having some major issues IRL (involving the police and some upset drunks) and I'll not get to play till tomorrow.
Langer, I've learned some more about how to do this, and i'll be glad to give some insight tomorrow.
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