View Full Version : What base to start with?
Kayin
01-19-2009, 09:53 AM
I'm down to two GPU-only BASES (not the whole block, both have issues) to work on, and I'd love some input on which to use. The whole block will not be used, simply modified bases.
So it's down to laminar vs pin-fin design. What should I base my blocks around?
Xilikon
01-19-2009, 09:57 AM
On the GPU, I don't think the Supreme VGA will be necessary. A MCW60 base is good enough for this purpose.
Septim
01-19-2009, 10:04 AM
i would go for which of the 2 have more copper, then chopped it down to size...
coolmiester
01-20-2009, 05:42 AM
After talking to many people about i7 block design, i'm personally convinced its an ideal opportunity to ditch the restrictive type blocks to a degree as its just not needed for single core.
I tend to think an adapted Cather's original impingement design with cups rather than pins would work very well for i7 but maybe in reality, tricky to adapt.
Again, just my opinion but i think this is an ideal time to dust off the old AMD blocks and start modding and testing.
If you're that way inclined and you have the old blocks and time, its got to be worth trying otherwise we are all just taking it for granted that the 775 technology is the best we can do :shrug:
RedRaider
01-20-2009, 06:16 AM
Coolmiester, Kayin is not discussing CPU blocks rather GPU blocks.
To comment on your statement though, of course Cathar is going to recommend his own design, which I think has gone the way of the DoDo bird. Block design has come a long way, why go that far backwards? His old G5 needs lots of improvements.
Kayin, I've never seen a Supreme GPU in person but you know my thoughts on it's design.:). Maybe give it a shot.:shrug:
coolmiester
01-20-2009, 06:21 AM
Coolmiester, Kayin is not discussing CPU blocks rather GPU blocks.
To comment on your statement though, of course Cathar is going to recommend his own design, which I think has gone the way of the DoDo bird. Block design has come a long way, why go that far backwards? His old G5 needs lots of improvements.
Kayin, I've never seen a Supreme GPU in person but you know my thoughts on it's design.:). Maybe give it a shot.:shrug:
Oops sorry :rolleyes:
Kayin
01-20-2009, 06:41 AM
It's no big, as I agree with you on the CPU front Coolmeister.
This is for making my own blocks for the 4850x2, which will just barely fit anything off the shelf and really everything needs serious mods to work.
Looking at the pics of the 4850x2 from my previous post, and the new MCW-4870, can I mod those blocks to work? (all banks, not just the rear one...)
Sniper
01-20-2009, 11:38 PM
Kayin i'm just curious why you didn't consider the Fusion GFX over the MCW60? I had thoughts on going with that myself actually as a universal block instead of FC blocks for my next cards.
Ricey
01-21-2009, 12:03 AM
Kayin,
You've got to be kidding. You are comparing a tried and true design, an industry standard that has worked through the ages, and continues to excel, to a off-the-rocker highly restrictive design that is completely unproven on a gpu, and IMO substandard. You've got to be kidding. You know where I stand.
iandh
01-21-2009, 12:20 AM
Restrictive GPU blocks are really unnecessary, so my vote goes with the swiftech base. Hell, even a flat copper plate base will keep a GPU around 50C OC'ed and v-modded (yes I've tried it).
Septim
01-21-2009, 06:02 AM
pic...
Sniper
01-21-2009, 08:08 AM
I can't ever see anyone here using a wetted plate design block on their GPUs lol.
iandh
01-21-2009, 01:18 PM
Honestly the current loop I am setting up will use a wetted plate for GPU, albeit slightly modified with dimples. Most GPU's on water reach their max OC on water long before heat becomes an issue unless you are doing some HEAVY v-modding, in which case you are probably benching and might as well just step up to extreme cooling.
In fact, I support a dimpled wetted plate design because it still cools quite adequately and adds very little restriction to the loop. The loop I am currently setting up uses a DB-1 so using a restrictive GPU block could hurt my system far more than it would help.
ballz0r
02-02-2009, 06:40 PM
most FC blocks are just wetted plate essentially... I doubt that the fins on the EK-FC blocks do much
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