"Renegade"

[slpdLoad]

The MM case has landed.... :D

slpdLoad's Project "Renegade"


This will be my build log and entry into the 2010 Spring WaterMod contest


Modding goals for this build__________________________________



Sunbeam Rheobus LED change from Blue to White



Mount 2x Slot loading DVD burners in 5.25" bays



Exceptional cable management, custom wire runs for everything



Full Parts List (updated as I go)_______________________

Case:
Mountain Mod's U2-UFO + Pedestal


Hardware:
Intel i7 920 D0
EVGA X58 SLI LE motherboard
2x XFX 4870s in CrossFire
6gb Mushkin DDR3 1333
2x 60gb OCZ Agilitys in RAID 0
LG Blu-ray drive, Slot Loading DVD drives
3x Sunbeam Rheobus Extremes
18x fans TBD
Silverstone fully modular PSU (TBD)

Watercooling:
2x TC PA120.3 - original 25mm + bleed screw
1x TC PA120.2 - "
2x Swiftech MCR320
2x Swiftech DDC 355s in series
1x EK 400 reservoir
IandH res clamps
Heatkiller 3.0 CU w/ RRTech Nickel Plating
3x 4870 EK FullCover blocks
EK FullCover motherboard block
MIPS RamFreezer 5
BP 1/2 3/4 Compressions

[slpdLoad]

Repost of previous work to the motherboard and HK which will be reused in this build:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/0042.jpg

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http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/0035.jpg

[slpdLoad]

The MM U2-UFO


http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030049.jpg

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http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030057.jpg

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http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030061.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030062.jpg


The photo setup for today :) Mic stand + projector screen

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030063.jpg

[trfnj74]

Nice Bro.....This is going to be good....Oh and thats one nice looking case :D
:popcorn:

[slpdLoad]

There's almost something...familiar...about it :D

[Sneaky]

subscribed

[Okkii]

Very nice hardware and case :D

[Kuro]

Wow nice stuff :up:

[Floyd]

That mobo would look KILLER in my rig! Too bad it would cost about 600 bucks to jump up to that socket.
And im assuming you put the HK on there 90* off because of the caps?

[Marne]

yes floyd that is why he did it. i had to do the same for mine. someone i forgot who managed to do it with this board and keep it up right but honestly i like the 90* offset

[Floyd]

I couldnt handle it. My mild OCD is flaring up seeing the text on that block face the wrong way!

[Marne]

lol its a nightmare trying to hardpipe/90/45 the HK in the normal postion to the EK block in its original postion. MUCH easier when its rotated. i thought i was gonna die from a brain aneurysm trying that shit 28 different ways

[slpdLoad]

lol its a nightmare trying to hardpipe/90/45 the HK in the normal postion to the EK block in its original postion. MUCH easier when its rotated. i thought i was gonna die from a brain aneurysm trying that shit 28 different ways

Did you find parts that worked for this?

[slpdLoad]

Okay small update for tonight...

I'm changing my Sunbeam Rheobux Extremes over from cheap-pc blue to white. LEDS came today so I did one. The other two will be here tomorrow...

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030071.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030075.jpg

Replacing these...
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030079.jpg

With these... (3mm white)
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030081.jpg

Halfway through...
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030085.jpg

Went fairly smoothly, but I'll be damned if I can convince my camera to take a good picture of it. It's white I swear haha. In person it looks fantastic, I'll get some better shots when I have all three in the drive bays...
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030094.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030103.jpg



Other goodies that came... I have a Silverstone ST850 coming tomorrow so I can start creating cables (it's fully modular)

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030104.jpg



I also played with hard-piping the connections on my motherboard. This works, but I need to order some more BP parts to replace the Feser SLI connector...
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030107.jpg


I emailed Gary to find out what he uses to hardpipe the connection from the EK waterblock to a Heatkiller since he's got the EVGA LE posted now, so hopefully I'll be able to do a direct connection for that as well...

[ablatman]

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030107.jpg

That is some pr0n there dude....


When done right, hard-piped loops are sexy. When done wrong, you fry a 450 USD motherboard and an expensive CPU........

[ballz0r]

That is some pr0n there dude....


When done right, hard-piped loops are sexy. When done wrong, you fry a 450 USD motherboard and an expensive CPU........

Thanks for reminding me ;)

great looking build mate, make sure you leak test the fuck outa it :up:

[Schlosser]

When done right, hard-piped loops are sexy. When done wrong, you fry a 450 USD motherboard and an expensive CPU........

But it still looks sexy...

[Septim]

man, i just don't like the wiring everything from scratch... but i know its gonna be worth the effort when your done!

[Marne]

Please by all means keep me updated on if you get it hardpiped.

[Greedseed]

hmmm sweet mountenmods pronzzzzzzzzz

[Liu Kang]

I have an LE... I have an ST850... I was going to order an MM case and custom wire the whole fucking thing. Freaky.

You got good taste :) Looking forward to seeing this build.

[slpdLoad]

I have an LE... I have an ST850... I was going to order an MM case and custom wire the whole fucking thing. Freaky.

You got good taste :) Looking forward to seeing this build.

Great minds think alike and fools seldom differ :D

I'm loving building in this case so far.

A word to the wise about doing custom wiring with the Silverstone Strider series: They put 2200uF capacitors on the PCIe cables, which are presumably an important part of the design - ripple suppression and all that.

I'm trying different things now - I think my solution will be to add them somewhere on the new custom cables, but someplace where I can hide them. Hopefully moving them away from the connectors won't introduce too much noise.

I'll post pics of what I mean and what I end up with of course.

[Locutis]

I love this forum :)

Awesome SLP, can't wait to see it when it's done.

[Overclocking101]

wow nice man this looks insane!

[Floyd]

A word to the wise about doing custom wiring with the Silverstone Strider series: They put 2200uF capacitors on the PCIe cables, which are presumably an important part of the design - ripple suppression and all that.

Take it from someone that COMPLETELY rewired his PSU. Its great and makes the build unique but takes forever! Im in the process of re-doing mine right now and getting rid of my patches that I had to do when I moved to the new case.

[Crazy V]

I love that case. Much bigger than i expected.

[trfnj74]

Nice start to your build :up:... Is there a combination of bitspower fittings that you could use instead of using the SLI fitting going from the GPU to the MB block. Im not saying it looks bad just I think it could match better if all BP fittings are used. Also the white led's look bad ass...

[slpdLoad]

Nice start to your build :up:... Is there a combination of bitspower fittings that you could use instead of using the SLI fitting going from the GPU to the MB block. Im not saying it looks bad just I think it could match better if all BP fittings are used. Also the white led's look bad ass...


Oh I completely agree with you. I think it looks terrible haha. It was just a proof of concept to make sure I could get the ports to line up. Another 1" DPlug + some extenders and I should be set.

[slpdLoad]

Finished up the fan controllers yesterday:

Blue vs white
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030129.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030137.jpg

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Some mockups of the general layout. EK400 fits in here somewhere.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030149.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030152.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030153.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030156.jpg


Got some wiring done tonight. Started with the easiest stuff - 24 & 8pin ATX.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030165.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030168.jpg

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http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030174.jpg


This is not how the cables will be routed/tied down, but I just wanted to see how the new cables looked in the case...
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030187.jpg


I still trying different materials to figure out how to do the supports properly, but the end goal is for the wiring to be based off of equipment rack wiring like this:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/img_0394.jpg

[trfnj74]

Looking real good, keep it going....I'm looking forward to seeing your wire management. Hmmm your 3 Sunbeam Extreme's look a lot like mine....Like you said great mines think alike.

[slpdLoad]

Looking real good, keep it going....I'm looking forward to seeing your wire management. Hmmm your 3 Sunbeam Extreme's look a lot like mine....Like you said great mines think alike.

Thanks man. Yep, 3 Sunbeams = 18 channels for 18 fans :crack::crack:

[Marne]

oh damn so each fan has its own channel and knob and can all run at full power without worrying about if there getting enough voltage....madman

[Marne]

is that link so far nothign but 45s and dplugs lol? remember we have the same board and blocks so im trying to so the same here. i wanna t least hardpipe the hk and the ek block together in a decent manner

[slpdLoad]

Yeah, that's all I had, so it's what I used. I may replace part of it with a proper snake of some sort. I think another extender + a 1" DPlug and it will work.

Gary was OOS on one of the 90 degree snakes that he normally uses, so he's looking into what parts will work. I'll be sure to post what I order for this.

[trfnj74]

Which 90 degree snake are you looking for?

Yeah, that's all I had, so it's what I used. I may replace part of it with a proper snake of some sort. I think another extender + a 1" DPlug and it will work.

Gary was OOS on one of the 90 degree snakes that he normally uses, so he's looking into what parts will work. I'll be sure to post what I order for this.

[slpdLoad]

BP-90R3

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/big14shsitrr.html

[slpdLoad]

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030255.jpg

Parts used:

Bitspower BP-SR5D Silver Shining Five Rotary Snake-Style Dual IG1/4in. Adapter
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/bibpsishfiro.html

Bitspower G 1/4 Shining Silver Triple Rotary Angle Fitting - # BP-90R3
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/big14shsitrr.html

Bitspower Shining Silver Male to Male G 1/4 Fitting #BP-WTP-C42 - Mini Version
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/bishsimatoma1.html

Bitspower Shining Silver Male to Male G 1/4 Fitting #BP-WTP-C08
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/bishsimatoma.html


http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030263.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030252.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030245.jpg


Better believe there will be a hard link between the HK and the MIPS Freezer...

[trfnj74]

Look sweet bro....Would it be possible to shorten the GPU to MB link?

Hey what are you using those vice grips on...???

[slpdLoad]

Vice grips were just around. I tried them for wire crimping but ended up using a small needlenose pair.

Lots of different options work with the GPU. Wasn't crazy about all the Dplugs and extenders together, so I tried 2 snakes. May post some other revisions.

This shit's better than Legos, and I fuckin loved Legos :rofl:

[Marne]

FUCKING TITS !!!

ive been looking to do something like this for ages. ill wait till you finish it all up and shorten it and all that. looks damn good as it is tho. thanks again bro for having the money and time to do this. you of course will receive all due credit for being the 1st to do this. i look to you for inspiration and ideas on how to do it right when it comes to this board :D

[4 73h l055]

What is the difference between the original EVGA X58 board and the LE version? If I'm going to move to X58 I might as well save some money, but I don't know the difference...

[slpdLoad]

The regular X58 is "better" on paper. LE is below it.

Few things that the 58 full version has:

16/16/8/8 vs 16/8/4/8 PCI
More SATA ports
Active chipset cooling vs passive (LE's cooling sucks)
Dual Ethernet

For me, the LE gave me a better price, the color scheme I wanted, and the availability of a fullcover block. Still has a lot of cool EVGA features.

[Septim]

nice shiny fittings...

and good idea on the "rack style" wiring, it looks pretty neat!

[AnG3L]

Thats some serious pr0n there mate!! Unbelievable amount of wire work too!! Good luck with the build mate! Subbed for sure! :)

[slpdLoad]

Thanks :up:


I must have been more tired yesterday than I thought, because rev B shown below works perfectly as well. No stress on any parts, all are fully connected.

Word to the wise, pick the block orientation you want to use, mount it fully with all hardware, and then try to find fitting combinations, not the other way around.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030271.jpg

2x Bitspower G 1/4 Shining Silver Triple Rotary Angle Fitting - # BP-90R3
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/big14shsitrr.html

1x Bitspower Shining G 1/4 Silver Mini D-Plug Set for Direct Connect # BP-WTP-C28
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/bishg14simid.html (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/big14shsitrr.html)

[slpdLoad]

Slightly better:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030273.jpg

Next I'll try mostly 45s. Still looks a bit too much like a crazy straw :p

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Some other things that are happening with this build:

-Found a third, matching XFX 4870 1GB on fleabay, will get matching EK block for it. I'm hoping around the time that all comes together, EK will have their GPU multi-link (looks like the Heatkiller link) out, and I can order one. :crack:

-Waiting on some capacitors from Mouser to complete the PCIe cables, which are done except for that.

-Will be ordering a Silverstone ST1000 and returning the 850watt, to give some more headroom with 3GPUs

- Been working on rewiring all 18 fans so far.

- Pedestal will be done soon, with fans, pumps, and rads

- Still deciding on using slot loading drives. I have two drives, and the following bracket I stole from my Master Kaze controller. Still haven't worked out the mounting and what to use to cut out a faceplate.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030276.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030278.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030279.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/P1030280.jpg

[ablatman]

The regular X58 is "better" on paper. LE is below it.

Few things that the 58 full version has:

16/16/8/8 vs 16/8/4/8 PCI
More SATA ports
Active chipset cooling vs passive (LE's cooling sucks)
Dual Ethernet

For me, the LE gave me a better price, the color scheme I wanted, and the availability of a fullcover block. Still has a lot of cool EVGA features.

The first revision of the E758 was pretty ugly (black, green, blue, white, and red) although the newer version is a LOT more like the LE -- mostly black and gray with the exception of the J-Micron SATA ports which are still red. In all it looks a LOT better than the first revision (I just opened my current-rev one within the last minute).

The LE is still a better price, and the "fewer SATA ports" bit isn't really an issue IMO as the "extra" ones that the 758 has are on a mediocre J-Micron controller....

The other issue of waterblocks is another big consideration because the only waterblocks that I'd use on a 758 are the EK set or the MIPS set -- the BP set doesn't cover a few of the mosfets/vregs that are under the stock NB cooler....

[slpdLoad]

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/photo2-2.jpg

[just a noob]

I like that one the best! Plus, it doesn't look like a silly straw from before :p

[p0Pe]

looks awsome bro! wicked hardpiping!

[ablatman]

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff228/slpdLoad/photo2-2.jpg

Now THAT looks badass. As usual, I can't wait to see more of this...

[4 73h l055]

Will the PCI speed of the ports affect the performance of the GPU?

I like your mentality: :bird:tubing.

[slpdLoad]

If I keep the spacing equal, which I intend to, I'll have the third card in a 4x slot, which will knock the performance down somewhat. Should still help out a bit, but going to 3 cards was more about looking cool and something I wanted to do, and only a little about the performance improvement.

[Overclocking101]

i hate you guys and your damn MM case!! and damn hard piping!! damn it! i need a mm case so bad I can tase it! and some rotaries and shit! fuck! I blew my wad on my damn setup though! ah well. nice fucking build though m8 ;)

[just a noob]

any updates? :crack: