Stealth tube reservoir/clamps [Archive] - RRTech...The SOURCE for Extreme Liquid Cooling

iandh

10-23-2009, 10:46 PM

Update 1/26/10, final product pics:

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/iandh27/pics166.jpg

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These should be stocked at Sidewinder, I'm currently waiting to hear back from Gary for confirmation.

The tube res has stealthed internal threads, and integrated anti-cyclone. The upper cap is hollow so the waterline (and resulting stains if using dye) will remain hidden.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/iandh27/stealthres/stealthres003.jpg

The clamps are made from lasercut and powdercoated mild steel, and are spring loaded. They will also be sold seperately in pairs as replacements for those that want a cleaner look than the plastic mounting clamps included with most tube reservoirs available, or for those that have had their clamps crack/break. These will NEVER break, I can guarantee that. :)

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/iandh27/stealthres/stealthres014.jpg

The clamps are compatible with both 2" and 50mm diameter reservoirs, so should fit most tube reservoirs on the market.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/iandh27/stealthres/stealthres020.jpg

Availability is ASAP, pricing not final yet.

Crow

10-23-2009, 11:03 PM

I never thought I'd see the day when Reservoirs gain a standard.

Looks good though. :up:

Marne

10-23-2009, 11:05 PM

i want it

ballz0r

10-23-2009, 11:10 PM

nice work :up:

slpdLoad

10-24-2009, 02:34 AM

I will be buying those clamps. :up:

Septim

10-24-2009, 04:59 AM

those clamps are nice.

crossing my fingers that the price is right too...

BDW88

10-24-2009, 07:59 AM

Does it have 3 fittings on the bottom like the EK multi res?

iandh

10-24-2009, 01:42 PM

those clamps are nice.

crossing my fingers that the price is right too...

They will be about $20 MSRP per set of two. :)

The res will be hopefully in low $50 range, but includes the clamps, so is still a great deal IMO.

Does it have 3 fittings on the bottom like the EK multi res?

Yes it does, two side and one bottom.

I'd be happy to add an additional bottom fitting port (for bottom inlet and outlet) at no charge for any customer that asks, just cover shipping to me and I will cover shipping back.

4 73h l055

10-24-2009, 04:28 PM

Another promising item from iandh.:crack::D

Hope these will be available in XXL sizes, like the EK Res400...

Schlosser

10-24-2009, 04:46 PM

Yum! :slobber:

n0t

10-24-2009, 04:51 PM

Looks Good Iandh :up:

I have a few questions :
Any way to add LED'S ?
What is the black part made of?
What is the ID and OD of the acrylic ?

Also, How / where does the holder attach to the res? it almost looks like there is a channel/indentation in the pic?

Thank You

DexNfX

10-24-2009, 05:19 PM

Man I'm gonna have to get me one as soon as Sidewinders gets them. ;)

just a noob

10-24-2009, 07:03 PM

how long is the res, is it like the 150mm res from ek, or is is smaller?

iandh

10-25-2009, 12:09 AM

Another promising item from iandh.:crack::D

Hope these will be available in XXL sizes, like the EK Res400...

See below :)

Looks Good Iandh :up:

I have a few questions :
Any way to add LED'S ?
What is the black part made of?
What is the ID and OD of the acrylic ?

Also, How / where does the holder attach to the res? it almost looks like there is a channel/indentation in the pic?

Thank You

These are cast acrylic/black acetal like many of the other tube reservoirs on the market.

The main difference is that I use a thicker wall cast acrylic tube to accomodate the hidden threading. It is 2" OD 1.5" ID. This also adds a tiny amount to the cost, but I am still able to keep the price competitive IMO.

I haven't thought about LED's yet, but I may make an optional LED holder for the clamps as I've gotten a couple requests so far for a lighting option.

Man I'm gonna have to get me one as soon as Sidewinders gets them. ;)

The ball is in Gary's court right now. :)

He's really busy right now so I totally understand, but if you are anxious for the parts I'm sure an email or two to Gary asking about ETA couldn't hurt. ;)

how long is the res, is it like the 150mm res from ek, or is is smaller?

The base size (pictured) is 175mm, but there will be other sizes available, possibly even custom lengths with a 3-4 week lead time and small fee, each addl. 25mm costs a little less than $2 (my cost) in materials. That is one of the things I am waiting on Sidewinder to hear back about.

BDW88

10-25-2009, 12:30 AM

175mm is exactly what I'm looking for! Think I found the replacements for my EK 150's :up:

arn_e

10-25-2009, 12:34 AM

Wow, excellent clamps iandh! You're making me spend more money =)

just a noob

10-25-2009, 09:33 AM

175 is close enough for me, i just don't want those little midget 100mm reservoirs, or those 250mm reservoirs that are just too big

cheapskate

10-25-2009, 01:13 PM

iandh

10-25-2009, 01:22 PM

Dayum! I like that you went with 1/4" walls. -Well, I like everything you did there... You took a clean design and made it even better.:D
The only thing I can come up with for an improvement would be a 2" OD black delrin fillport cap.

That's actually a bitchin' idea... have a nice stealthy 2" top cap to make filling super easy, it would look cleaner too.

If I go through with it I'll give you one for free. :)

EIGHTLUG

10-25-2009, 01:34 PM

Those are great looking clamps. I'll have to scoop up a couple pair.

iandh

10-26-2009, 06:12 PM

I just wanted to let everyone know that I got the green-light from Gary, and the reservoirs are currently in production. They will be done by the end of the week, and the clamps should be completed shortly thereafter.

I would put the ETA for them to be in stock at Sidewinder, at a solid two weeks from today. :)

I also talked to my machinist, and the tubes are going to be produced on one of his least busy machines. Because of this, he'll allow me to do one run of custom lengths per month. The price for custom lengths will be about 20% higher plus the added cost of materials. I'll collect all custom length orders for a given month and run them at the end of the month. That means the longest wait for a custom length reservoir should be about 5 weeks, depending on when it is ordered. There will be a maximum length available due to the constraints of the machine, but I do not have that number yet.

edit: I'd like to add, I'm going to have a surplus of spare blank endcaps made, so that custom port configurations can be ordered direct from me for a fee, I'll try to keep it as reasonable as I can. :)

Greens

10-26-2009, 09:44 PM

are the threads compatible with the EK caps?

iandh

10-26-2009, 10:21 PM

are the threads compatible with the EK caps?

No, the construction is different.

On EK reservoirs, the threading is on the inside of the acrylic tubes and the outside of the endcaps, mine is reversed to hide the threads, so the threading is on the outside of the acrylic tubes and the inside of the endcaps.

Greens

10-26-2009, 11:55 PM

No, the construction is different.

On EK reservoirs, the threading is on the inside of the acrylic tubes and the outside of the endcaps, mine is reversed to hide the threads, so the threading is on the outside of the acrylic tubes and the inside of the endcaps.

OH nice one.

ShoNuff

10-27-2009, 03:26 PM

iandh...thumbs up to you for the new res and clamps. I really like the idea. :up: In my next breath I'm gonna have to cuss' you b/c I have to take my rig apart to install your new res and clamps;).

iandh

10-27-2009, 07:50 PM

iandh...thumbs up to you for the new res and clamps. I really like the idea. :up: In my next breath I'm gonna have to cuss' you b/c I have to take my rig apart to install your new res and clamps;).

Thanks, now I'd better get my ass off the internet and get to work assembling a couple hundred pairs of clamps... if I come back talking gibberish, you'll all know what happened to me. :crack:

ballz0r

10-27-2009, 08:16 PM

get to work bitch!

I just ordered one thru OCAU :D

ChuckleBrother

10-28-2009, 01:43 PM

I must have these

cheapskate

10-28-2009, 05:40 PM

Feel free to use my idea. I don't expect payment.:D
-'cept permission to maybe replicate your brute force waterblock someday.

iandh

10-28-2009, 11:57 PM

Feel free to use my idea. I don't expect payment.:D
-'cept permission to maybe replicate your brute force waterblock someday.

It would add about $5-7 in machining cost to the reservoir, so I'm considering making it as an optional replacement "EZ-fill" top section, sold seperately. I really really like the idea, but I think it would push the overall cost of the reservoir too high as a base unit. Plus some folks may want to retain the stock top to attach a tube for fillport.

mcoffey

10-31-2009, 12:22 PM

EIGHTLUG

10-31-2009, 04:04 PM

Good question mcoffey. I was wondering the same thing. Maybe "The Force" :shrug:

iandh

11-01-2009, 01:17 AM

Good looking stuff as always iandh. Couple questions. I can see where the clamps secure the res from back to front, but what keeps the res from sliding up and down? Do they rest in the small crevice between the tube and tops? If so, will the same thing work on a EK res?

andyc

That was a worry of mine as well.

The internal springs are quite strong, but the black powdercoat against the acetal is also very slippery, so I've added a thin strip of black silicone to the inside edge of the jaws to prevent slipping and for added protection against scratching :)

Crow

11-01-2009, 01:39 AM

iandh

11-02-2009, 07:10 PM

Now that's a damn good idea.

EDIT::

Ok, I just took a look at your Brute Force waterblock. Apparently I haven't been EVERYWHERE on the internet concerned with LC yet. $300 at the machines for that thing?

Well, probably $300 in machine time since it was a one-off machined from scratch (I didn't use any drawings or anything, just kind of made it up as I went). It took me a whole night so at machine rate of $60+/hr (that's low end) it would be at least $300-400 if you just had it made at some random shop. HORRIBLE price/performance ratio :D

Crow

11-02-2009, 07:32 PM

Lol, I think you should work on it and see how cheaply it can be made. Free flowing and low temps? That sounds like something I'd buy.

ablatman

11-02-2009, 07:58 PM

Lol, I think you should work on it and see how cheaply it can be made. Free flowing and low temps? That sounds like something I'd buy.

Assuming it's all copper, it'd be pretty expensive given the total amount of material; I'd say that 150+ USD isn't unreasonable...

cheapskate

11-03-2009, 01:49 PM

I totally want to mill one some day... But I want to do this (http://www.aescustomknives.com/docs/tutorial12.htm) for it.

-Sorry about the hijack.

iandh

01-26-2010, 02:43 AM

FINALLY have these puppies done. Ship tomorrow morning to Sidewinder.

I didn't want to release these until I was 100% happy with them.

Thank you so much everyone for being patient with me, I REALLY appreciate it. I mean that sincerely.

I updated the first post with the final product pics.

ablatman

01-26-2010, 04:58 AM

iandh

01-26-2010, 06:10 PM

What are you looking at pricing-wise?

Final pricing is set by the reseller, I believe Gary will be listing them soon so that should contain the pricing. It is priced higher than most other reservoirs, but they are USA made down to the nuts and bolts, and the clamps are included.

just a noob

01-26-2010, 06:17 PM

:woot: i think i'll be getting 3 for my mm build :D

Matt

01-26-2010, 07:09 PM

looking forward to these. ill be grabbing a couple no matter what the price.

iandh

01-26-2010, 07:55 PM

looking forward to these. ill be grabbing a couple no matter what the price.

The price is going to be fair... neither Sidewinder or myself will be getting rich off of them, I can guarantee you that. :)

As I said before, it is priced higher than most other reservoirs, but that is just the cost of the endeavor. Manufacturing in the USA is expensive, but you also get great quality. It is also because I am making these in 10's, not 100's or or 1000's like some of the manufacturers that have these done overseas. I also do all of the assembly, QC/testing, and packaging myself. Each and every product that someone purchases from me is guaranteed to have been touched by my hands, down the nuts and bolts.

I don't have anything against products made elsewhere, but I like to support businesses in the country I live in, when possible.

As an example, I recently was looking to purchase a 115pc drill index for my new shop. The chinese made index sets cost around $80, and the american Chicago Latrobe sets cost $400 or more for the same exact set. The difference is that the USA drills are more precise, last longer, drill better holes, and are less likely to break and imbed themselves in your forehead.

Some of the overseas manufactured products have excellent quality, which I respect. It can be a mixed bag sometimes though, and there are certain troubles which come with having your stuff made a half a world away. When I'm only 90min away from my farthest production house, I can keep a very tight control on what comes out the other end.

Cutless009

01-26-2010, 08:37 PM

I can keep a very tight control on what comes out the other end.

That's never a bad thing :p

These look very nice, and even better is they will probably hold anything from 70mm to 30mm, and not just the standard 50, simply because of the design. Nice!

Snyxxx

04-21-2010, 09:04 PM

I just bought two of the 175s and cannot wait to use these.

Do you plan on making shorter replacement acrylic tubes at various lengths as a stand alone product such as 60mm, 100mm, etc?

Also, I like the EK's links between two smaller reservoirs so I can maybe run a tube to the middle instead of the top/bottom of the reservoir.

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/ekli2.html

Any plans? Keep up the great work.

Snyxxx

04-24-2010, 06:22 PM

RedRaider

04-25-2010, 07:49 AM

I have two sets of the Iandh 'crab claw' clamps, they are a very ingenious design:up:

They are the Bee's Knees

iandh

04-25-2010, 01:25 PM

Thanks!

Where are you iandh?:p

Lol sorry, I do have plans for shorter tubes, as well as some other accessories, but up until this point I have barely been able to keep up with demand on the standard stuff.

Gary just ordered a HUGE batch from me though, so after that is done I should have some time to devote to other stuff.

Snyxxx

04-25-2010, 01:38 PM

Thanks!

Lol sorry, I do have plans for shorter tubes, as well as some other accessories, but up until this point I have barely been able to keep up with demand on the standard stuff.

Gary just ordered a HUGE batch from me though, so after that is done I should have some time to devote to other stuff.

That's cool. I must say that your reservoirs and clamps are the nicest I have seen. Believe me, I have had them all over the years. Great product. I especially like the rubber dipped clamps. Awesome.

iandh

04-26-2010, 08:29 PM

That's cool. I must say that your reservoirs and clamps are the nicest I have seen. Believe me, I have had them all over the years. Great product. I especially like the rubber dipped clamps. Awesome.

You wouldn't believe the amount of time that went into rubberizing those damned clamp fingers.

At first I tried plasti-dip, it worked well but wasn't durable enough (it was durable, but just not to my standard), then I ended up finding a very similar industrial product that is much more durable, but more expensive of course.

The stuff in its stock form was too thick, so it was all gloppy on the fingers, and I had to use solvents to thin it. I found some solvents weakened it, some dried too slow, and some made it less grippy.

I ended up having to make my own proprietary solvent thinner mixture to make the rubber coating go on in a high quality and durable manner.

I'd fucking love to see someone try and copy it... I can say that much. I spent WEEKS getting it just right.

ablatman

04-26-2010, 10:03 PM

...Gary just ordered a HUGE batch...

Yeah, they seem to be selling like hotcakes...

Frozen-Q

04-26-2010, 10:42 PM

The price is going to be fair... neither Sidewinder or myself will be getting rich off of them, I can guarantee you that. :)

As I said before, it is priced higher than most other reservoirs, but that is just the cost of the endeavor. Manufacturing in the USA is expensive, but you also get great quality. It is also because I am making these in 10's, not 100's or or 1000's like some of the manufacturers that have these done overseas. I also do all of the assembly, QC/testing, and packaging myself. Each and every product that someone purchases from me is guaranteed to have been touched by my hands, down the nuts and bolts.

I don't have anything against products made elsewhere, but I like to support businesses in the country I live in, when possible.

As an example, I recently was looking to purchase a 115pc drill index for my new shop. The chinese made index sets cost around $80, and the american Chicago Latrobe sets cost $400 or more for the same exact set. The difference is that the USA drills are more precise, last longer, drill better holes, and are less likely to break and imbed themselves in your forehead.

Some of the overseas manufactured products have excellent quality, which I respect. It can be a mixed bag sometimes though, and there are certain troubles which come with having your stuff made a half a world away. When I'm only 90min away from my farthest production house, I can keep a very tight control on what comes out the other end.

I agree, and as I've said time and time again to those who question the price (I know you've come to aid before on this Iandh, repaying the favor :D), the time and effort that goes into every little detail of these reservoirs, needs to be repaid somehow. I personally love Iandh's reservoirs, and like my own, since we do hand make everything, it allows us to make them unique. He has epic clips, I have epic helix's. That's something that doesn't just roll of an assembly line overseas at the moment because it is far from the norm, and therefore the price is very fair. And when he says doing every aspect takes time...he seriously means it. Packaging for example...can take an entire evening just to do 20 or so.

Keep up the good work!

ablatman

04-26-2010, 11:02 PM

...Packaging for example...can take an entire evening just to do 20 or so...

Sounds like it might be time for you to investigate new packaging options...

As for price, what Gary is charging for Iandh's reservoirs is perfectly reasonable, and he'd probably still sell them in similar quantities at 5-10 USD more each. They're absolutely tits.

Kuro

04-27-2010, 08:03 AM

Could you just wrap them in bubble wrap and put them in a cardboard postal tube and tape the endcaps on?

Snyxxx

04-27-2010, 08:38 AM

You wouldn't believe the amount of time that went into rubberizing those damned clamp fingers.

At first I tried plasti-dip, it worked well but wasn't durable enough (it was durable, but just not to my standard), then I ended up finding a very similar industrial product that is much more durable, but more expensive of course.

The stuff in its stock form was too thick, so it was all gloppy on the fingers, and I had to use solvents to thin it. I found some solvents weakened it, some dried too slow, and some made it less grippy.

I ended up having to make my own proprietary solvent thinner mixture to make the rubber coating go on in a high quality and durable manner.

I'd fucking love to see someone try and copy it... I can say that much. I spent WEEKS getting it just right.

From the description on the web sites, it was not really clear on how the rubber was presented. I thought maybe it had only a thin strip on the inside.

However, I was pleasantly surprised to see the whole jaw portion had been dipped in rubber. Maybe this should be emphasized to indicate the true quality and TLC involved.

Crow

04-27-2010, 01:38 PM

I like Ian's reservoirs... But Alex's end caps are just totally boss and manly... Feels like you're holding a barbell in your hands...

I'd totally love to buy a set of those clips tho'. :crack:

iandh

04-29-2010, 04:45 PM

I agree, and as I've said time and time again to those who question the price (I know you've come to aid before on this Iandh, repaying the favor :D), the time and effort that goes into every little detail of these reservoirs, needs to be repaid somehow. I personally love Iandh's reservoirs, and like my own, since we do hand make everything, it allows us to make them unique. He has epic clips, I have epic helix's. That's something that doesn't just roll of an assembly line overseas at the moment because it is far from the norm, and therefore the price is very fair. And when he says doing every aspect takes time...he seriously means it. Packaging for example...can take an entire evening just to do 20 or so.

Keep up the good work!

Yeah I don't like seeing any of us unnecessarily getting beat up on price.

The packaging is a gigantic pain in the ass as well. I have a pretty tuned packaging system, and it takes me a whole day to ship an order.

From the description on the web sites, it was not really clear on how the rubber was presented. I thought maybe it had only a thin strip on the inside.

However, I was pleasantly surprised to see the whole jaw portion had been dipped in rubber. Maybe this should be emphasized to indicate the true quality and TLC involved.

Each clamp finger is hand dipped individually. On top of that you have to pull them out of the dip slowly at different speeds for different parts of the finger to get an even coat. It takes a lot of practice, and a lot of time.

Just setting up the drying racks and hanging the fingers on hooks can take nearly an hour for a 50pc clamp order.

On top of that, I do two coats per finger for durability.

Ketzer7

04-29-2010, 06:37 PM

Each clamp finger is hand dipped individually. On top of that you have to pull them out of the dip slowly at different speeds for different parts of the finger to get an even coat. It takes a lot of practice, and a lot of time.

Just setting up the drying racks and hanging the fingers on hooks can take nearly an hour for a 50pc clamp order.

On top of that, I do two coats per finger for durability.

:wth: Holy shit, that is what I call dedication to one's craft! Of the 5 I own (2x 175 and 3x 225), it's obvious just from holding them how much quality is in them.

iandh = :youtheman:

Merby

04-29-2010, 06:57 PM

i need those so bad.

Snyxxx

04-29-2010, 07:46 PM

When will you be getting the new supply to Sidewinders? I daily hit the link for the clamps, but not in stock yet.

Darkvine

04-29-2010, 09:41 PM

I think this, as many serious hobbies, is the kind of thing where people start to really understand that money isn't the issue if you are looking for something. Anyone who has ever gotten their hands dirty with some mod knows how much work can go into the simplest things, and thus how much of a pain in the ass it must be for people like iandh and Q.

That is why you see people just getting into modding getting cheesy plastic cases, FuFuFuFuFuFuFuFu parts etc. They learn quick (at least the one with brains).

My girlfriend is into these ball jointed balls that hard made in order from high quality raisin, everything done by hand and they can go for anywhere from $100 to well into the 2K range in price depending on size and level of detail. Most people with flip out and say go get a barbie but anyone int hat hobby knows the quality and work put into each one; even waiting as long as we do for MM cases to be made (sometimes longer) to get it.

Not bashing any companies either, EK and bits make good res lines but iandh with take them every time in quality. Props to both of you for loving what you do and doing it well. :worship:

Mr_Sushi

04-29-2010, 10:07 PM

My girlfriend is into these ball jointed balls that hard made in order from high quality raisin, everything done by hand and they can go for anywhere from $100 to well into the 2K range in price depending on size and level of detail. Most people with flip out and say go get a barbie but anyone int hat hobby knows the quality and work put into each one; even waiting as long as we do for MM cases to be made (sometimes longer) to get it.

Ball jointed balls made of raisins? I just don't even.