Kayin's Answer to Fit's Challenge (fun fun...)

[Kayin]

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This is an EK-type design, larger plate (closer to G80 sized at least) no turns to deal with the exra restriction. the RAM and MOSFETS are cooled by the accelerator plate, of all things, which is a contiguous top layer to the water chamber of the base.

Swap the accelerator, change the card it's used for. I've got some tuning yet to do on it.

[cheapskate]

I can't see anything...:(

[Kayin]

try it now. Made the album public.

[R0bert]

Works for me at least.
Looking nice, hehe :)
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[Fitseries3]

good start. just remember that it has to be universal ;)

[Kayin]

All I do is change the plate.

It's a better solution to anything else out there, and of course you could run a small blanking plate for lesser card.

[Fitseries3]

good idea

[Kayin]

Fit the criteria then?

[Fitseries3]

i'll see what comes of it.

im looking to make a block thats not full cover and i dont have to make vreg/mem cooling for. thats where enzotech, zalman, etc come in. ;)

[Kayin]

Pah, inefficient.

If you want a non-full cover design, memory sinks are a PITA, and something at the least like iandh's unisinks are called for. Especially with even stock memory solutions being so underwhelming.

Though, I'll see what I can come up with.

[Kayin]

New reply, so my answer to that isn't lost...

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[Fitseries3]

yes..... NOW your on the right track ;)

make a universal block and have interchangeable (cheaper) memory unisinks for mem/vreg.

concentrate on the gpu block then work on the individual mem/vreg sinks. trust me... you have the idea... just need to break the 2 apart.

[Kayin]

Fits, those mem sinks are actually integral to the block, which means watercooled memory without restriction. Performance of a gpu-only, cooling of a fullcover.

For the record, while I see ramsinks as inelegant, you're not on the wrong track with some cards.

[Fitseries3]

then a modular design could work.

buy one top...

get the base for your card....

sell your old card...

get a new base.

still not ideal but not too bad i guess.

[Kayin]

Only the midplate changes, and a blank plate can be used for cards not requiring that much cooling.

Keep top and bottom...

[Fitseries3]

just keep in mind the cost of materials.

[Chicken Patty]

looking good so far, and having interchangeable vreg/mem plates would be awesome. At least your local dude, hook it up lol.

[Fitseries3]

you know.... the mid section could be jetted for different cards too. although that would be something that would need to be tested before production. hmm.


while not a single slot design i think your on to something and i like it.

[mstrmold]

What would you propose for an adapter plate on video cards with memory on the backside of the card? I know keeping the VREGS are more important, but it would be nice to have a plate that would mate to the back of the card. Oh, and are you using any kind of stand offs so the PCB doesn't flex on the card?

I like the concept thus far. Would be great to see more modular solutions for WC gear in the future.

[cheapskate]

What about heat piping for the interchangeable mem sinks? You could set up the core block with a copper top, and fix the two halves so they seat heat pipes. The tricky part would be making sure the mem sinks all can fit the same pipes. It's a brilliant idea to play with. It's like video card leggos.
If you can do it, Kayin, you can call it 'the one ring', -because it will rule the market.

[ballz0r]

looks like a good concept, but you gota make it single slot

[Kayin]

Working on it...

I think I have the answer to that, I just have to get my hands on some stuff... I need to have some bases made. I have the dimensions, I just have to get them made up. I plan on working up a pair of them for Mithril as a POC (proof of concept.)

Cheaps may have it there. I have an idea, but I'm not sure how to implement it. However, he's given me fun things to think about.

Where to find heatpipes...

[Xilikon]

Very very interesting concept. This is very easy to manufacture with simple tools or quickly made in mass production using jigs without too much cnc programming.

A good thin base with a 1/16" microchannels will cool the GPU very well. You can make the inlet and outlet diameter slighty smaller since the restriction is compensated by the large accelerator nozzle and make it extend up above the top of the card so barbs can be put either at the top (ala GPU-only blocks) or side (ala full cover blocks). For the memory/vregs, there are lots of way to do.

[Kayin]

More, because Cheaps gave me the best idea ever.

http://www.realredraider.com/vbulletin/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=43

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Thanks to those who have given feedback and ideas.

BTW, I'm in the process of copyrighting these designs. Steal from me at your own risk. I don't expect it from any of you, but I've seen it happen by unscrupulous vendors. You're forewarned.

Stay tuned my friends, this will get more interesting.

[Kayin]

And it with the single-slot top.

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There will be a Rev. 4 to clean up the top. I may even learn to do threading, too.

[cheapskate]

With the pipe slots vertical like that, you will have to bend the pipes more than 90 degrees.
I was thinking you could do a set of holes along the pcie slot that could give you a (w)hole range of options for fitting. Keep the vertical holes, They would be good for memory on the opposite side of the card.

What are the clearances for single slot, anyway?

[Fitseries3]

15mm is about the max width of the card+cooler to fit next to another card in single slot spacing.

[cheapskate]

Ouch!
So if the fitting is tapped out of a 7/16" bore you have less than 1/16" on either side.
I hate to say it Kayin, but the vertical barbs may have to go.

[Kayin]

There is another way, I just haven't used it yet.

Too busy to run SU right now, but there is an answer.